Thats pretty cool. Where did you get your turbo from? Also do you know what RPM it starts to spool??

 

I got it from boost lab. I dont have a tach in my truck but i would estimate around 1900-2200rpm

 

How much boost are you getting with the stock sticks? I was thinking of going the same route but could not decide on the s366 or s363.

 

Im making 22lbs and thats only on 4 inch exhuast and pump tunes still have to tune my full power adjustment and install my 366gsk. I went with the s366 to leave room to grow on the turbo. I see no point in upgrading my turbo again over time when i get big injectors so i thought about the long run. Just food for the thought

 

22lbs of boost eh!!

 

Yeah not to bad for stock sticks on this size turbo with pump adjustemnts to go

 

Laggy is an understatement

I had the same size turbo on my CR and it was WAY laggy. I can't imagine how bad it would be on a VE

 

i think you understaded your understatement!!

 

Its not bad at all i dont know what size exhaust housinh you ran but i have no issues spooling on stock sticks. Makes 22lbs on pump tuned and 4 inch exhaust

 

14cm, .80 A/R.

I'm not trying to beat you up or call BS either, I just know that thing on my CR with a large tune was extremely laggy. I'm sure had I dyno'ed it it would have been minimum 550hp. It ran like a SOB when it spooled, but hoo-eee did it take forever I went back to stock turbo and it's far funner to drive.

Just my experience with that turbo and more fuel:thumbsup:

I had an aftermarket trans too, and the converter may have been a factor. That's an avenue I never went down

I probably should have kept quiet, it's the 1st gen section and....well I don't have one

 

As long as your happy with it thats all that matters, but 22psi seems a bit low for that turbo and "pump tuning". Have you turned your full fuel screw in or just adjust the afc?

 

please post a link to the EXACT turbo you have. I doubt it a "14cm" housing. The T4s are .88 open and .91 divided which are closer to a 19cm housing.


Hook up a tach so you're not guessing too.

 

22psi is not spooled! Not even close
What are your egt's like???

 

the one thing you guys are forgetting about is his stock converter. It helps a lot with spool because it sucks so much. Another member on dtr, (who is on here too) put an a5000 on his truck and with the stock tq converter it legitimately didn't spool that bad. He put videos of it up. that was a good while ago though.

 

Please elaborate? I don't get it. How would a sloppy tc help spool?

And to the op I shouldn't be hacking on ya!!
It took me hours and hours to get my 64 too spool!
I found it quite hard to believe that your setup could spool that turbo
I think when you add fuel you might find a different story!
What are your goals for this truck?

 

The sloppier the converter the easier it is to spool.... Just like it is easier to spool when unloaded, or easier to spool in non overdive than overdrive.

 

i was looking for more of an explanation than a repetition of what was already stated!
i assume its just less load or slower application of load?

 

Ding ding ding we have a winner

 

I WON!!!!!! :-O YEEEEEEE HAWWWWwww..... Are you mocking me??

 

no you're right, in part.

It is less load, and a slower application of it too, and the result of the slower application of load is this: he steps on the accelerator and before the trans puts much load on the motor the rpms shoot up to 2000+rpm. So there is no real load until the turbo is in spool friendly rpms almost right away, thus, it spools almost right away. There are advantages to having a sloppy converter.

Now if that turbo was on a truck with a manual or a truck with a really tight converter it would be more like 'strokethis '07's truck. slow to spool but a beast when it is spooled.

 

for all of you know it alls, i will post a video of spool time and will show you the exact turbo. no 22lbs is not fully spooled but that was full spool on my h1c correct? i dont care who beleives me or not but i have no reasons to lie about spool time or lag? makes no sense your all nothing but haters. i will bet i can push 30lbs out of STOCK fuel system on all pump adjustments. video will be up shortly ladies.

 

sig is still wrong BTW, it NOT a 14 housing.
while you're at it, read mine. I'm not assuming anything. I've run a couple of that exact same turbo with different set-ups. I base my opinions on hands-on knowledge and comparisons. I got more than 25psi out of an 80mm single, maybe you'd like to hear how good it spooled?

in all seriousness, hook-up a tach so you can say exactly what rpms you're talking about.

PPs- H1C can make over 35psi.

 

oh and my goals for this truck are none. just to have a fun daily driver that i can beat up on common rails when needed and ocasionally hook up to a sled. if i were to say a power goal i want to make atleast 400hp to rear wheels and break 1000tq by the time i turn 19

 

all spattering aside... you'd be very hard pressed to make that kind of torque or even horsepower by that matter with a turbo of this size. One needs to compliment a turbo to the fueling abilities of the pump. Our pumps fuel the best between idle - 2300 ish rpms....

Trying to turn a ve pump into a p pump or a pump that is gonna spool giant turbos is kind of like re inventing the wheel.

Try not to turn something into something it's not. The art of modifying is to turn something into something better with complimenting its advantages.

 

please tell me how its not a 14 cm housing turbolvr? im pretty sure its 14cm directly from boost lab its a .91.ar t4 housing


((CM x 8) - 7) / 100 = a/r ratio

some conversions below.

6 cm2 = 0.41 A/R
7 cm2 = 0.49 A/R
8 cm2 = 0.57 A/R
9 cm2 = 0.65 A/R
10 cm2 = 0.73 A/R
11 cm2 = 0.81 A/R
12 cm2 = 0.89 A/R
14 cm2 = 1.05 A/R
16 cm2 = 1.21 A/R
18 cm2 = 1.37 A/R
21 cm2 = 1.61 A/R

 

I have no idea where you pulled those #s from but they dont work. maybe a T25 ricer turbo?
most T3 turbos are .70 for 12cm and .80 for 14cm and T4 is larger.

 

and please tell me the point of spooling an H1C to 35 psi when your pushing hot air? and for you thinking you know everything i would like to know what rpm YOU think it spools? and im sorry i quite frankly i DONT GIVE A SH*T what rpm your turbo spooled at and like you stated you base your OPINIONS on everything. how about this, stop worrying about my truck your not my father and ahh head back over the the 2nd gen forum your not wanted over here.

 

Settle down. Take a deep breath, remove the sand from your crack. Better?

You're clearly a hothead, take a second and calm down there kiddo. For one, Carl has had more setups under the hood of his truck than 99% of people on here. I'm not saying he's an expert, I'm not saying he isn't, but I don't think you can run that many different setups and NOT learn something.

My comment was based off my CR that fuels WAY more than a VE on stock sticks does; it was largely an innocent comment. If you choose to get pissed about it, so be it. I'd hate for someone to get on and see your thread, be like "wow, I can do that too" and then have a setup they hate. I hated that turbo on mine, and I bought it because people said it "didn't spool that bad"...

And if a CR can't spool it, how's a VE supposed to? Because, as we all know, the CR is king ____ (rhymes with hit):rof (pick up the sarcasm?)

No one is calling you a liar. No one is really on your case. It's a discussion about a turbo setup......what the hell is the point of the forum if people get mad?

BTW it's a public forum, people are free to post wherever they want, constructive or not. I think most everyone has been pretty constructive here. If you so choose, report posts. I don't think you'll get any results but hey, it's worth a try if you so feel

 

TURBLOVR has ran more setups than everyone else here combined. I'd listen to him.

 

temper, temper child,
You really think you can come on an open public forum, make a claim that many know is not accurate, and not be told so?
BTW- here is a Holset comp map for an H1C and 35psi is plausible: http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr203/wheelhop_photos/holset compressor maps/H1C-7234Z.jpg

 

He doesn't know how to read a comp map!

 

im not trying to do it on a stock fuel system? there are plenty of plans in the future for this truck. eventually its getting a dragonfly VE complete air dog system 1/2'' fuel lines and im ordering 7x.017 injectors with .093 fuel lines and much more just not in the mood to type it all. and diesel dawg how do you know what i can and cant read? how bout you shove your comp map up your as*s . this thread is getting deleted i didnt start it for everyone to bash on me for what i have. pretty apparent that your all stuck up as*s holes who like to bash on other peoples trucks because you have a faster truck. f*ck off.

 

All of the upgraded fuel stuff aside... the ve will still want to give you all of that fuel at 1500 rpms, not higher. Might be a good turbo with nitrous though, that'll def. get her to light.

Also do yourself a favor and don't buy a hopped up ve pump. There is absolutely nothing that they do to that pump that you cant do for free. There is no special anything to those pumps... at all. If you would like to buy a new upgraded and actually maxed out pump, have scheids, or scott giles do it for you.... Better yet have Brian Block build you a pump, if you can get a hold of him and talk him into it.