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Need injectors for towing

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17K views 34 replies 7 participants last post by  EarlTheGrey  
#1 ·
Alright so I've got a bit of decision making trouble. I need help deciding what injectors would be best for me. I tow my cattle trailer sometimes which weighs about 14-16k when fully loaded. I also want to be able to play around some. Been thinking about some 5x0.12 sac from hungry but I'm not sure if they would be too hot for towing or not. I don't want to have to stare at my gauges all the time. Any help would be appreciated.
 
#2 ·
I'de add Gauges first then go from there .
 
#4 ·
I'm kinda on the same path as you. Was told I needed bigger injectors and bought some good used PODS which are probably great injectors for a 500 horse truck but I tow a lot and these are WAY too big. I'm looking at the DAP 5X11 SAC's or the same from Hungry Diesel. These are approximately 49% bigger than stock IC injectors. If your patient I will be the guinea pig.
 
#7 ·
I can be a little patient lol. Please keep me informed on how they work for you. I was kinda worried bc my egts can get a little high (1200-1300) as it is on hills and I dont wanna get down to a crawl on the interstate to keep them down. And thanks for the advice RC. I'm somewhat knew to the modified diesel world. Do tou think my turbo will handle those injectors alright?
 
#11 ·
I don't see how your EGT's are so high with an HX40? is the exhaust turbo housing causing too much restriction? Bigger injectors will probably make it hotter towing. Maybe you should address that issue first. Also my calculations show:
Stock IC injectors 6X.009" = .000381si (square inches)
5X.010" = .000471si (24% bigger than stock)
5X.0105" = .000519si (36% bigger)
5X.011" = .000570si (49% bigger)
Plus 5 holes with the exact same area as 6 holes will flow more (albeit not a lot) simply due to the laws of fluid dynamics (less hole wall friction).

fluid honed nozzles will flow better because the hole walls are smoother (microscopically speaking) but the turbulence caused by an unhoned wall will improve atomization giving you more torque. Same goes with porting your heads. If you want to gain top end HP but loose torque pretty much everywhere except above 3000 RPM then portings the way to go. Not good for a tow rig though.
 
#15 ·
Dude... you times it by 5 because there are 5 holes.

And that injection pump shop saying you lose torque by extrude honing is merely going off what makes sense in their head....

Dyno sheets show the EXACT opposite. An extrude honed nozzle, because of how it changes the cloud point of injection actually makes more power per amount of air.... on dyno sheets it becomes obvious because they have a higher peak TORQUE in the mid rpm range.
 
#24 ·
ARP requires milling the rocker stations.... A1 only requires grinding the webbing out of the inside of the valve covers.

A1 studs have more block to stud contact than ARP...

Other than that they are probably (for the real life sake of argument) the same strength.

Only "downside" to A1 studs is you are SUPPOSED to bottom tap the block. But, I've heard of guys not doing it and still getting down far enough. But, since you'll have the head off anyways... not a big deal.
 
#25 ·
Bottom tapping the head bolt holes are a cinch even with the heads on if you use a shop vac and a can of compressed air used for cleaning keyboards. (it's okay... vodka's wearing off)