The Juice still manipulates timing, even on stock setting. Sell the Juice/Attitude, buy an Insight CTS monitor, and never have to worry.

 

my edge has the option to choose stock timing or juice timing, so if I set it to stock timing would it still be manipulating the efi live? also do you know if the insight monitor has the turbo cool timer in it? thanks

 

Yes, it will over write what EFI has the ECM programmed to do. Sell the edge setup you have now and get the Insight. That's what I run with my EFI. All you do is unplug the insight from the OBDII port, plug in the EFI for the ECM reprogram (tune). When it's done, unplug it and plug the insight back in. You can still monitor the vitals.

 

You can run a big file with a double disk. They got you headed in the right direction also in terms of the edge and efi.

 

Stock injectors and CP3 can take it pretty far - the stock turbo will limit how big of a tune you can safely run.

 

I am running EFI Live by Dave Matthews and have the Edge Race Juice just as gauges. I do have a little injector rattle which I thought was just the program Dave sent me. If you can live without the turbo timer then just disconnect the Edge wiring harness from the injector harness and you should be good without any added timing from the Edge (which I'm gonna have to look into further to verify).

 

We need to see if still having it hooked up is doing anything. Remember Edge doesn't flash the truck, but intercepts signals and changes them.

 

Thanks for all the info guys, so with the egr and cooler deleted and blocked off can the efi live tune be set so that I wont get any trouble codes? also I'm kind of on a budget right now and I've been told it would be way cheaper to just take it to someone that would only charge me to flash it instead of buying tuning tool, is better to spend the money and buy the flashscan or whatever it is or is taking it to someone the better way to go?

 

I would agree with getting your own handheld as well. That way if there is a tweak that needs to be made it is just an email away instead of a drive back and forth or something like that. Autocal is your tune loader, scan tool, code reader/clearer and data logger.

 

I use an Auto Cal from Dave Matthews and although I haven't got any programming changes done it is simple and easy to set up through email. Get your autocal, pull your ECM program, email to Dave. Dave works some magic and emails you back. Load new program to autocal then load new program to ECM and TA DA! More power and deletes are done!.

 

i've got Daves efi tuning also with the old edge juice as gauges i just unplugged the injector harness and the map sensor from the edge no issues.

 

So with what you have unplugged and still using the attitude monitor for gauges does your turbo cool down timer still work?

 

yep cool down timer is working fine