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#1 ·
AutoTap - OBDII Diagnostic Scanner
Personal Diagnostic Scan Tool linkable to view live on PC or Laptop
Has anyone heard of or used this product? If not, check this site out(autotap.com) and let me know what you think.

Looks pretty handy. When I'm on the road traveling I get as far away as 1200 miles and being able to check diagnostics of the truck via my laptop would assist in many ways. You can look at live data as well as history of data using this software.
 
#2 ·
I just purchased an OBDII scanner software and cable from OBDCOM and it works on my 2008 dodge 2500 6.7 as well as on my wifes 98 accord and my daughters 2000 taurus. Great price, lifetime free updates and super customer service.:thumbsup:
 
#3 ·
I have it, along with the expanded Chrysler package, used it mostly for when I had my highly modified Ram SRT-10 (Viper Truck).

I like it, it works well. I think I have about 300 into it... might be interested in unloading it since I have an edge on my truck, and dont really need it.. if your interested.
 
#4 ·
I have heard from a bird that the software isnt transferable.

Since posting this I have found another tool that appears to be just a little more useful, or in depth anyway. It could be the fact that they just have a better website. The second tool I have found is called AutoEnginuity® - OBD2 Scan Tool - Professional PC and PDA Diagnostics If anyone reading this has used AutoEnginuity let me know what you think please.
 
#6 ·
I think the price on this one reflects its abilities. OBDCOM seems good at what it can give you, but I am looking for a tool that is basically going to reflect every sensor and monitor in the truck computer. I'm not just wanting a code reader. I want to be able to look at something as in depth as engine load %, torque in ft/lbs, or throttle position. The Auto Enginuity will even display vital information about the regen process.
 
#7 ·
You are correct, the OBDCOM will only show live data on about 25 items on my 2008, 10 at a time. Regen is not one of them. Engine load, throttle position, and I believe torque are included.
I thought I could find a list. If your interested I could hook it up and get the list.
 
#9 ·
AutoTAP

I have the Autotap and overall it's an excellent tool, EXCEPT it does not work with our diesels even with the upgraded parameter package. I have tried it with my 97 12v and 2004 24v. It will bring back about 4 useful parameters. It looks like the over 8000GVW opens the door for the MFR to make the trucks OBDII non compliant.

On every car I have hooked it to however it works great and can more than pay for itself. It's like having a gauge on every variable in the car most with over 300 parameters. Want to know what the voltage coming back on the O2 sensor on cyl 3 is? It will tell you.
 
#10 ·
AUTO Enginuity is absolutely amazing. Bryan @ diesel power products let me hook up to his copy and it is truly amazing what that thing can do. Reprogram injectors (6.7) tranny quick learn, all sorts of tests, the thing is amazing. Bryan is now selling the program, give him a call if you are interested. DPP is a CF vendor and Bryan himself is a great guy.
AutoEnginuity Scan Tool software

The thing is amazing.
 
#11 ·
I just received the AutoEnginuty program as well (with the Chrysler Enhanced Package). I have not gotten a chance to really use it yet since my truck is undergoing a couple mods. It looks like it will be very useful. It appeared at first glance that it could also be used to command active regen, whereas before you'd have to take the truck to a dealer to do that. But I don't really know much about it - has anyone tried to command a regen using the AutoEnginuity?

Ben
 
#13 · (Edited)
Ditto! I have smarty so I can read and clear codes and don't need the basic package from AE. The chrysler specific package however looks awesome. I have heard good and bad things about AE but the bad comments were from a few years ago. The AE tech line is a freaking joke.

So, can somebody with AE tell us everything it does on my 08 6.7L with auto?

Can it really do a quick learn on the trans clutches? Has somebody actually done this???? Can you read the CVIs (clutch volume index) that calibration generates? If so we could tell how worn a transmission is by how the CVIs change. Which would be PRICELESS!
Can it clear transmission codes? The smarty and such code clearing devices don't clear transmission codes worth a crap.
The AE site has very general screen shots. Can anyone post pictures of all the special tests, ie injector, quick learn etc?

I wish some vendors who sell the AE would step up and give us info.
If it really does what AE claims it would be worth the 500 but if it doesn't work AE WILL NOT take it back. So, until I get more info my 500 is staying in the bank!
 
#14 ·
AE isn't a bad tool. It's a little clunky but will do a lot of things normally done with the Star Scan. I still haven't decided if it worth the money though.

My biggest complaint with the AE program is the refresh rate or "frame rate" is slow. I've mentioned this to them and they said that the program would never be able to log data like a scope. I find this amusing since the Edge Attitude and Black Maxx have no problem displaying real time data.
 
#15 ·
Rich, what would the AE have to do for you to say its worth the money?
Can you confirm that it does the injector, quick learn tests? For me if it only does data logging (regardless of refresh rate) it isn't worth 500!
If it does the injector tests, reads transmission sensors, and does the trans quick learn it is worth more then 500.

I know 6 guys right now that would kill to have more info on there 68re.

Thanks!
 
#16 ·
I know you can do the injector kill test, quick learn the trans, read sensors in real time and see actual vs comanded. I'll try to take a few minutes with it tomorrow and see what all is included. There are a lot of test and areas that I haven't messed with in a while.

As far as the refresh rate, here is my concern. Take for example a simple data log of engine RPM. If you are idling and blip the throttle the RPM may rise to 2578 RPM. However if AE doesn't happen to be pinging the ECM at the exact moment that 2578 is achieved you may only see 2196 which is where the RPM was when AE refreshed. This may not sound like a big deal but, for data logging fast sensors such as rail pressure or troubleshooting a problem like a single injector miss, it IS a big deal.

Things are crazy in the shop right now but I will do my best to get you guys more info on AE tomorrow.
 
#17 ·
Thanks for the help rich!!!:thumbsup: By the way I love my waste gate!
Since it can do a quick learn can it show you the CVIs for the transmission clutches?
I want to record my CVIs and then do a quick learn and see how then change. The do it again after 10k miles to see how fast my clutches are wearing out.

Wow I had no idea the refresh or sampling rate for the AE would be that bad. Can you adjust the sample rate? On my Cat data log equipment I can set it from taking 1 sample per second to 10 samples per second.
That is on the low tech equipment. 500-$1000
On the high tech equipment I take samples 1000-1500 times a second!!! But that stuff costs 10K+
 
#18 ·
I don't recall if it can show the CVIs or not. The sample rate appears to be between .5 1.0 seconds. I have everything set to max for speed.

I forgot that I had unloaded the program when we update the shop laptop. We have a different laptop to load it on now. I try to get it loaded back up this evening and give you some more information.
 
#23 ·
I didn't read the whole thread, but I have scanned through most of it.

I can't speak on other brands of software, only the AE.

From what I have heard the AE is the most extensive OBDII laptop software you can get.

It will put the 68RFE into quick learn, and it does have the ability to measure CVI's. I have not tried this one, more on that later.

It also has the ability to run many different diagnostic test. Such as, injector testing, VGT vane recalibration, trouble shooting various systems, dozens more

Of course it can pull codes and give you read outs on most of the sensors in the truck. Such as VGT vane position while driving, both actual, and commanded by the ECM. (believe it or not, those two are not always the same.)

The biggest problems with AE? The read out on your LT screen is delayed from what is actually happening. Also the program seems to capture in about 1 - 2 second increments. So if you need to monitor something in half second increments or less, it's not going to happen.

Also, There is not much information on how to use most of the diagnostic features of AE, most of it you have to just figure out. For example, There is no information on how to do a tranny quick learn. I had to figure out through trail and error, that you start the truck, put your foot on the brake, put the truck into drive, THEN start the test on the AE. It has to be that way in that order, but I never found anything telling me that.

I would like to check the CVI's on my tranny, but I have no idea how to use the test system, and I am a little apprehensive to just start pushing buttons.

If any one knows a place to get the answers on how to run specific test, please do share.


Do I like the AE? Yes. Would I buy it again? Yes. But I am the type of guy who does most of his own work on his own truck. So there will come a time that I need the AE to help diagnose a problem, such as a bad MAP sensor, and the AE should be very helpful with that.

But at this time I have had almost NO problems with my truck, (that weren't my own doing ;-) so I have yet to have much need for AE, except for some turbo tuning I was doing last summer.

Hope this helped.

:thumbsup:
 
#24 ·
Looks like there is an updated AE version that might speed the frame rate up. Unfortunately, the matching hardware update for the Proline connector killed mine. Wiped it clean. I won't be able to give more info until I get the connector back from AutoEnginuity.
 
#27 ·
Interesting product......Good info here thanks
 
#29 ·
Rich did you have find anything out? I am interested in the quick learn screen and a screenshot of the CVIs if possible. If the AE tool can do both of these I will be sold!
The AE site says it can turn all all the clutch solenoids, do brake torque tests etc. The question is are those test available for the 6.7L and 68 or for a POS mini van transmission?

What connector do we need for our dodge/cummins or is the ProLine connector the only one that works with our trucks?

Below is the transmission commands that are "covered" Ya right for a mini van or my mega van?

Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 01) Commands sensors top

Battery#1 Voltage - T-Case Motor Activation
Brake Pedal
Center Differential Actual Mode
ESP Requested Center Differential State
ESP Requested Front Differential State - ESP Requested front Differential State
ESP Requested Rear Differential State
Emissions Rolls Test Mode is Active
Front Differential Actual Mode
Low-Reverse Solenoid
Multi-Select Solenoid - MS Solenoid Mode Control
Multi-Select Solenoid - MS Solenoid Mode Control and Period
Multi-Select Solenoid - MS Solenoid On Time
Over-Drive Solenoid - 4C Solenoid Mode Control
Over-Drive Solenoid - OD Solenoid Mode Control
PRNDL Display - T-CASE Signal Status
Rear Differential Actual Mode
T-Case Failed CAN Output Request
T-Case Motor Duty Cycle
T-Case Motor Duty Cycle - T-Case Motor/Motor Lock
T-Case Motor Solenoid Lock
T-Case Service Indicator Request
T-Case Status
Transfer Case Low Lamp Request
Transfer Case Low Lamp Request - Transfer Case 4WD / Lock / Part Time Lamp Request
Transfer Case Low Lamp Request - Transfer Case AWD / Auto / Full Time Lamp Request
Transfer Case Low Lamp Request - Transfer Case Neutral Lamp Request
Transfer Case Shift Inhibited
Under-Drive Solenoid
VFS Duty Cycle



Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 04) Commands sensors top

Shift Solenoid 1
Shift Solenoid 2
Shift Solenoid 3
Shift Solenoid 4

Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 06) Commands sensors top

Hybrid Trans Aux Pump Enable - Auxiliary Transmission Pump Fluid Supply Solenoid Enable
Hybrid Trans Aux Pump Enable - Auxiliary Transmission Pump Fluid Supply Solenoid On
Hybrid Trans Aux Pump Enable - Auxiliary Transmission Pump Pressure
Hybrid Trans Aux Pump Enable - Auxiliary Transmission Pump Pressure Enable
Trans control 1 - Trans adapts preset trigger
Trans control 1 - Trans adapts reset trigger
Trans control 1 - Trans cleaning procedure trigger
Trans control 1 - Trans fast adapts reset trigger
Trans control 1 - Trans fast learn trigger
Trans control 1 - Trans high side driver 2 Enable
Trans control 1 - Trans high side driver 2 On
Trans control 1 - Trans line pressure current enable
Transmission Clutch 1 Pressure
Transmission Clutch 1 Pressure Enable
Transmission Clutch 1 Solenoid Enable
Transmission Clutch 1 Solenoid On
Transmission Clutch 2 Pressure
Transmission Clutch 2 Pressure Enable
Transmission Clutch 2 Solenoid Enable
Transmission Clutch 2 Solenoid On
Transmission Clutch 3 Pressure
Transmission Clutch 3 Pressure Enable
Transmission Clutch 3 Solenoid Enable
Transmission Clutch 3 Solenoid On
Transmission Clutch 4 Pressure
Transmission Clutch 4 Pressure Enable
Transmission Clutch 4 Solenoid Enable
Transmission Clutch 4 Solenoid On
Transmission Line Pressure Enable
Transmission X-Valve Solenoid Enable
Transmission X-Valve Solenoid On
Transmission Y-Valve Solenoid Enable
Transmission Y-Valve Solenoid On


Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 08) Commands sensors top

2C or 2-4 Solenoid
4C Solenoid
DR Solenoid
LC Solenoid
Low-Reverse Solenoid
MS Solenoid
Over-Drive Solenoid - OD Solenoid Mode Control
Under-Drive Solenoid
VFS Duty Cycle
VLP Solenoid

Transmission Control Module CCD Commands sensors top

Command to Cycle 2-4 Solenoid
Command to Cycle LR Solenoid
Command to Cycle Overdrive Solenoid
Command to Cycle Underdrive Solenoid

Transmission Control Module VPW Commands sensors top

Command to Cycle 2-4 Solenoid
Command to Cycle 2C Solenoid
Command to Cycle 4C Solenoid
Command to Cycle FS/LR Solenoid
Command to Cycle LR Solenoid
Command to Cycle LRCC Solenoid
Command to Cycle Overdrive Solenoid
Command to Cycle Underdrive Solenoid
Line Pressure Override
VFS Duty Cycle Override


Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 01) System Tests sensors commands top

1st Gear Brake Torque Test
2 Prime Brake Torque Test
2nd Gear Brake Torque Test
3rd Gear Brake Torque Test
Clear All Histograms
Clear Ambient Air Temperature Histograms
Clear Diagnostic Retention Information
Clear EMCC Counter
Clear Engine Temperature Histograms
Clear Learned VLP
Clear Shift Counter
Clear Transmission Temperature Histograms
Clear VLP 2-3 Shift Count In Open Loop
Clear VLP Open Loop Output Tooth Count
Line Pressure Pump Test
Quick Learn Procedure
Reverse Brake Torque Test
VFS Duty Cycle Pump Test

Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 02) System Tests sensors commands top

Reset Learned TCU Adaptives
Store Learned TCU Adaptives
TCC Control


Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 03) System Tests sensors commands top

Clear Learning Memory

Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 04) System Tests sensors commands top

AISIN Diagnostic Data Clear
Clear Exhaust Brake Fault Counter
Enable Mobile or Stationary Power Takeoff
Quick Learn

Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 05) System Tests sensors commands top

Clear Historical Fault Records
Historical Fault Records

Transmission Control Module CAN (Var. 08) System Tests sensors commands top

1st Gear Clutch Slip Test
2 Prime Clutch Slip Test
2nd Gear Clutch Slip Test
3rd Gear Clutch Slip Test
4th Gear Clutch Slip Test
Clear All Histograms
Clear Ambient Air Temperature Histograms
Clear Engine Temperature Histograms
Clear Learned VLP
Clear Shift Counter
Clear Transmission Temperature Histograms
Clear VLP Open Loop Output Tooth Count
Clear VLP Shift Count In Open Loop
Direct Gear Clutch Slip Test
EATX Quick Learn: Engine Authentication
Line Pressure Pump Test
Overdrive Gear Clutch Slip Test
PRNDL Data Error Flag
Quick Learn Procedure
Reverse Clutch Slip Test
Torque Converter Break-in
VFS Duty Cycle Pump Test
 
#30 ·
I've been getting the run-around on the new ProLine connector since last Thursday. Ordered a replacement via Next Day Air but they couldn't seem to supply a tracking number. Finally got the owner on the phone today and wouldn't you know, I have a tracking number now. LOL! Should see the connector tomorrow if the weather here doesn't slow things down once again.

The ProLine connector is required for the expanded Chrysler interface.
 
#34 ·
Any updates Rich? Did you get a chance to check things out a little more?
I need to get my request into Santa asap.
 
#32 ·
Been there and done that 10x. I have heard dozens of times that AE's website seriously over rates the software and what REALLY can do.

Hence the call out for some real world help. AE doesn't let you return anything so I have to be 150% sure its worth it.

Need I mention your grief to just get a stupid connector.
 
#37 ·
looks like this thread kinda went dead. anyone else got anything to add to this? anyone recommend anything better?