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Big injectors with stock turbo

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#1 ·
About 4 months ago I installed some 5x.016 injectors in my truck with a stock turbo. I didn't *have* to change injectors, but I figured I may as well upgrade them now and never need to upgrade them again. Here's my experience.

The biggest concern of mine and that I saw here on the forums was that they would be uncontrollably smoky. Another concern I read was that they would easily overwhelm a stock turbo. So far, however, I have not seen either of those effects.

When I installed the big sticks, I also swapped the stock AFC spring to one of the big springs from the stock governor. I didn't notice any extra smokiness, but I also noticed a pretty big lack of power, too. What happened was that the governor spring was far too stiff and would barely increase the fuel even with a lot of boost. What I wound up doing was using the stock spring with a couple smaller springs put inside, effectively stiffening the spring rate. I have realized that the star wheel and preboost can only adjust the response so much, while the spring rate is really quite possibly the most important factor.

Yes, it will smoke some if I keep my foot in it, but it is easy to keep it under control. It has fast boost-building ability and doesn't block out the sun. Furthermore, I think it behaves better under high loads with the bigger injectors, but that is a fairly subjective observation (since I tow dismally inoften).

As far as idling and low-load operation, I haven't noticed much difference at all. From my experience, I would say that big injectors are very controllable if you just take the time to get the AFC right.
 
#3 ·
x2! if preboost is set correctly youll want the afc to start moven rite around 7-10psi (roughly) each setup is a little diffrent but thats where my truck was happyest at.
 
#7 ·
For my next upgrade i would like some bigger injectors either some .012s or .014s i dont know yet. But i want to get it dialed in like what you have with a stock turbo and then upgrade the turbo later.

Are you running a TST AFC spring?
What number fuel plate do you have?
Almost make me thinks i need a #10 plate.
 
#5 ·
Oh yeah you can dial them back with pump tuning no problom but...... Man thats given up some power! i understand it was 1st mod & dont wanna break stuff tho, i did the same thing until i went through the tranny & hybrid then let the sticks flow better.:party018:
 
#6 ·
:agree2: Spring rate makes a much bigger difference than people give it credit for. Found one at ace hardware that completely changed how my truck ran. Starts moving at 10-12psi, and full travel with no coil bind at 40-42psi. Night and day difference from the stocker.
 
#9 ·
MG diesel spring? Off ebay?

Just ordered 5x.010's from him, was wondering about the spring kit
 
#10 ·
Great..I thought I had decided on 5x12's after a month and a half of research and reading..but this has me wondering now..5x14's, 5x16's maybe some 7 x10's...I think you just ruined my afternoon...lol
 
#15 ·
Do you have a pyrometer to watch your EGT's? You may get to hot without extra air added to a lot more fuel
 
#17 ·
Hey guys, I thought I'd update this thread. I've continued toying around with the AFC a little more and have managed to get my truck running cleaner still - I found a spring a tad bit stiffer than the combination I had in it before, and now I can get all the way to full power 35 psi with only a light smoke (or heavy haze), so now I'm comfortable just flooring it in traffic (as opposed to before, not wanting to do a slight freight train impersonation).

The big injectors also have the effect of spooling the turbo fast - I can go up a steep hill in 4th at 1200 RPM and actually spool and continue spooling.