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snow chain recommenations?

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#1 ·
ram 2500 6.7L
3" AEV lift

Toyo 37" tall 12.5" wide
Katla 17" rims 8.5" wide

would like suggestions for snow chains to be used in idaho/montana mountains
would prefer something with fairly low clearance as my lift doesn't give me a huge amount of room

this is what i'm looking at https://www.etrailer.com/Tire-Chains/Titan-Chain/TC3835CAM.html

any suggestions on which chains to buy and which site to buy from would be appreciated
 
#2 ·
Are you looking for them to use on pavement or gravel roads? The ones you linked are a good choice, but might be crazy expensive for 37s.
 
#4 ·
11Rx22.5 big rig chains will fit 37's fairly close. Might have to cut them down a few links is all. You may be able to find them cheaper.
 
#5 ·
Those look OK. Heavy duty off road is better but expensive. But those are good as Weed brand similar. V bar is good for thick ice adn deep snow and of road. Less so for light snow with pavement. For deep snow, mud and off road or plowing you can also look at Double cross line every 2 links instead of every 4th link. You can even make them yourself if needed. I have/had some that were double cross link military surplus.
Check Weed Brand. That appears a good price. Not familiar with those extra tightening links.
 
#6 ·
I went with these for what sound like a different use as you, offroad only when hunting. See aev forum link for pics of clearance. 7.14mm

https://www.tirechain.com/37X12.50X17.htm

I have nicked my parking brake cable when running OEM spare tire rims and OEM tire size. Better clearance with lift and aev rims now. I assume you know your katlas are recalled? I'm going steel 0mm offset rims which will give 1 more inch of clearance for chains until a new katla is released.

https://forum.aev-conversions.com/f...ram-prospector-recruit-parts-product-discussion/9142-wapiti-hunter-build/page19

Running snow tires in the winter. Never needed chains during ice or snow conditions and I storm chase for skiing - we had a 125year record for total snow this year.

If your running the interstate with chains you don't want vbar I would think. Unless it's just to prove to the HP that you have them when the law requires it.

Almost busted the chains out during hunting season this year. Wet main forest road, no gravel due to private section, slight hill, towing, it was a close one...don't need them often but when you do there is no replacement. For me most often in October in the mountains offroad after a heavy wet snow....

The extra tightening cams are awesome IMHO. I like them.

After all the snow last year I know carry a set of chains for the camper during hunting season as well.


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#7 ·
whapiti, thanks very much for the info. i live in the south and know nothing about snow chains so i appreciate the education. the only time i will have them on when interstate is when mandated by law. they're mostly for offroad. i guess i shoudl have said that. snow tires seem impractical when i need to drive 2000 miles of interstate before i get to the snow.

no i had no idea the katla was recalled. is there a thread on it over on aev website?
 
#8 ·
from that thread...
Slight buyers remorse, hind sight might have sprung for the square 'boron' chain to gain a bit of clearance and longevity, but reality is, when I put these on, I'm using for those once a year wet sloppy heavy snows while in elk camp, or short runs up steep canyons off road to get to a trail head...translation, slow speed, 5-15 miles at the most at a time, once or twice per year....little to no articulation---idea is to stay on the road!

Chains have plenty of room to spare for a 'true' 37x12.5 tire...I had 3 links on the inside and 6 on the outside during the test fit. (test fit the front right tire for obvious reasons - drag link clearance).
when i talked to them today they said the square 'boron' chain stands off more for better traction and less clearance. if i understand correctly the standard twisted links you showed in the pics have more clearance

i was thinking about boron in back, twisted in front. however i also noticed in your post that you said you don't have the front stabilizer bar. my tires can rub on the stabilizer bar now at full turn and some movement like driving over the curb between my driveway and the street, so my thought was either no chains up front, or just don't make sharp turns with them on
 
#10 ·
The key to that is hooking them one link tighter inside and extra black bungee type tighteners on outside. The slowdown a bit. If you have les than 2" clearance to fender and all you are truing to be is legal use cables. Definitely not V-bar
 
#11 ·
I have stabilizer bar back on. Just take it off during hunting season but season was way short for me this year. Killed a bull second day. My tires rub stabilizer bar and also my radius arms. So no turning tight with chains on. If your in the south I'm curious what state your worried about. Very few states require chains if you have 4x4 and or mountain snow flake rated tires. California comes to mind. When I use chains I'm going 5-10mph for short distances. Less than 5 miles usually.


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#13 ·
Are you going back into the forest roads in the snow for sure? I ask, because, in 30+ years of driving in snow country and 20 of that in the mountains, I've never once used chains on the highway. And we snow chase to hit the hills for snowmachines (think, towing big trailer) and skiing. Did 2 winters' work on Alaska's north slope, ice road access only...0 tire chains on anything except some large equipment for clearing snow.
I have chains and end up using them 1-2x a year running up a forest road with a 32' trailer in tow. They are necessary and priceless then. But if you're not going into un plowed back country, save your $ IMO.

If you're worried about having to chain up due to regs in the mountains, again, I've yet to see chains required for 4x4s. When it gets that bad, youre parked, highway is closed typically.

What Toyos? How much tread? Siping most any tire will help it 100% in snow and ice. In the winter, I run siped run of the mill mudders (like Toyo MTs)
Huge difference.
Also, air down as much as you can in snow/ice. The best tires in the world will suck at 80psi compared to half that or less.
 
#14 ·
And like Wapiti said, I don't use them at high speed or long distances. Would have to be life r death situation to make me run chains on a pickup down the hiway for a long distance.
 
#16 ·
With good tires I have only used chains while hunting in foot of snow or a foot on the highway or plowing snow.
 
#17 ·
I’d call Idaho and Montana dot and ask about their passenger truck chain laws. Wyoming and Utah don’t require chains if you have 4x4. Semi trailers are different.

Also make your own call but tire pressure is critical. Don’t go below the recommended for the weight the tire will see and monitor it as it will change for air temp. I personally run 38psi front and 20 psi rear when empty. Snow tires are different since size and tire are different. Make your own call after reading up on it though. Don’t take my word.


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#20 ·
I lived in the CO mountains for 5 years and never chained up, didn't even own any, including busting 1-2' of fresh up county or forest roads with a snowmachine trailer. Never even heard of 4x4 chain law in effect. I'd hazard a solid guess the road would just close first.
Ive used them for getting in/out in the fall hunting though and could see the benefit there if going boondocking in the snow.
Only bought some in WA because there's a couple popular close by snowmachine areas that have forest roads named like "Matterhorn" and the wet, icy, heavy, greasy schitt that passes for snow here requires some heavy metal traction sometimes.

With decent tires, chains would be just ahead of a spare engine for the truck as something I'd pack for a winter road trip pretty much anywhere.
Like said above, good tires, air down and throw some weight in back if you're really concerned and let er rip. Driving in the snow is a blast, not something to worry about...
 
#19 ·
I bought a set of heavy duty truck chains at Broadway Splicing in Spokane. I knew the lightweight ones they wanted to sell me at the tire stores would break quickly under the weight of my 05 3500. Mine are called Road Blazer and are made by the Quality Chain Corp. They are very heavy duty and don't have cleats. Add a spider type chain tightener and you're all set. You can find them online.
 
#21 ·
I carry chains for insurance but rarely use them. When I did have to use them they saved my bacon. Spun out on a long steep climb while elk hunting and nearly slid backwards off a serious drop while trying to back down. Chains allowed me to drive forward to a safer turn around spot. I've also had to use them to self-recover out of a ditch and while recovering other vehicles. I hate putting chains on but they are a god send when you need them. I grew up in north Idaho and have been driving in snow for 30 + years as a forester, logger, hunter, etc. I've also used them while pulling snowmobile trailers to get a bit further up the mountain. That said, I don't recall ever having to chain up a 4WD pickup on a highway. I run good winter tires and stay home if it's really that bad.