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Problems after injector change please help!

2.7K views 19 replies 9 participants last post by  Blazed2500  
#1 ·
What's up guys, finally tired of beating my head against the wall and ask for some advice/wisdom, I appreciate it greatly

The truck: 2003 ccsb 6spd 4x4 slt so
Mods: clutch and hd hydros, fass 150gph lift pump, afe intake, slightly bigger single and straight pipe

The problem: truck would take couple cranks to start, changed fuel filter no difference, then truck wouldn't turn on hot, then wouldn't turn on cold, spray a tiny bit of ether it would take a few cranks and fire right up, run fine, I installed the fass and made no difference, I installed reman injectors, truck turns on fine but sounds different, complete different tone, and I notice the throttle is not as snappy as before, I got ho reman injectors for my year, hoping for more power, upon first drive in 2nd gear (on dirt rd) I nailed it turbo lit and tires started spinning, some black smoke, seemed promising, but again different exhaust tone completely, I keep driving the truck and it starts losing power gradually, and sputters, at this point it starts almost instantly and idles great but has different exhaust tone it's not as loud as it was and truck can barely get out of its own way and has to be revved up high for turbo to spoil then truck kinda starts moving, I feel like I didn't tighten one of the rockers back on correctly? Because one or 2 of them were harder to loosen then the rest like they were spring loaded and that kinda made me ponder but I finished the job, torque specs and all, and the truck sounding allot different throws me off too, any help will be appreciated
 
#2 ·
Just threw a p0251 code, injector pump reg control, read it may be fca, I read some where else some one having a similar problem of power loss and exhaust tone and they changed their fca and fixed the problem, I unplugged my fca while truck was running and it knocked and idled wild, I turned it off immediately haha, not sure what that means, I have a buddy's fca I can swap to see if that does anything tomorrow, fingers crossed
 
#4 ·
Well took the valve cover off and rechecked my work, everything is torqued accordingly, I then proceeded to turning the truck on without the valve cover and disconnected one wire off each injector one at a time as it idled, each time I removed a wire the engine responded and seemed to idle worse then back to normal when I connected the wire again, so I'm assuming all 6 injectors are working correctly? Thanks in advance
 
#5 ·
Give the FCA a try and see how it does.
 
#9 ·
Your initial symptoms sound excatly like my truck before I had the injectors replaced.
I'd be concerned that it is injector centric... there is a ton of posts on here about issues with remanned injectors.
 
#10 ·
Did you do the torque sequence correctly? New tubes? Check the overhead lash afterwards? It's very important to initially install everything at the lower torque and then step up to the final torque to get everything to mesh right.
 
#11 ·
It kills me to see someone using remans but I understand money isn't easy to get. Where did you purchase them from? Is there any hazing at idle or smoke on start up? New tubes? I would loosen and retorque everything.
 
#12 ·
Find someone with a good scanner and read what pressure your getting out of your cp3 cranking, at idle, and max.
 
#13 ·
Thanks for replys guys, truck starts breaking up closer to 2k rpm and puffs out white smoke, the cp3 has 300k miles when I installed the fass 150gph, maybe it took a ? I'm allot more meticulous then my younger days with a vise grip on everything lol so believe me when I say everything is torqued to spec, I thought I could get away with remans, the only thing I went cheap on, now gotta pay and do the job twice I guess, and I don't know anyone with a scanner, I guess advance auto parts could scan and check fuel pressure?
 
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#15 ·
What year is your truck? I've read older than 05 you can't get rail pressure from obd.
 
#16 ·
If it were me I would want to know your pressures from your cp3 before you change anything else, if your low its not gonna run right.
 
#18 ·
Yeah can't get rail pressure on the torque app but of I can get it with that Bosch scanner I'll Fed go pick one up
 
#19 ·
Anyone tried this on a 04.5 or earlier truck, and got RP and CRP, that will be useful. It is possible, but I suspect with nonstandard I/O, not the usual OBDII PID traffic, because the Edge Insight, and Smarty Touch, supposedly can pull that information up for at least the 04.5.
 
#20 ·
Reman inj came out of a spare ho engine I had sitting around for a few months, but ran great and had low miles on the injectors like 2k miles with receipts and what not, I guess I was dreaming thinking they would still be good, they gotta be clogged up something serious for the huge lack of power it had, but what I didn't understand was it turned right on and would smoke black with acceleration, but my original inj would only start with starter fluid but ran excellent and truck was loud as the devils harley, with remand only at high rpms driving it would shutter and puff white smoke, and the truck sounded completely different from before, sounded like someone put a muffler while I wasn't looking during the inj swap haha but to my surprise no muffler and no little green men