I run the same tires year around and have on my last few Cummins without TC and have never had a single problem in the winter time. I can't really see traction control helping on a full size vehicle, it all depends on your driving. Personally I think it is useless, that's just my thoughts though.


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The 2012 trucks will have stability control as mandated, traction control may not be to far behind or included? :confused013:

 

Traction control and stability control are an excellent feature to have especially towing on slippery surfaces. If the truck start to wander from its intended course of travel the computer will steer the truck straight again and stop you from losing control with very little driver input. As stated above 2012 should have traction control. For those who don't want it it is turned off with a switch.

 

I had traction control and stability control on my 09 1500 ram, I didn't care for any of it!

 

Good stuff guys. Keep it coming. I see there are two very different opinions.

 

Traction control on the '11 Ford's is nothing to be missed. You won't be missing much in my opinion if Ram doesn't offer it.

 

IMO learing to drive propely is way more important that having electronic nannies watching over you.

"safter" cars are only going to breed less skilled drivers.

 

IMO learing to drive propely is way more important that having electronic nannies watching over you.

"safer" cars are only going to breed less skilled drivers.

This is true to a point, but who here would willingly take a step back in technology by removing their anti-lock brake system?! No one I know!

That being said most of the new fangled stuff I'd just assume go without.

How many of you get freaked out by the mere thought of the newer steer by wire vehicles?

 

The biggest reason I didn't like it was even with the traction control button off it limits the power to much when you really need it.

 

It depends on the system. On my Toyota FJ, pushing the button turned off the ABS component of traction control, holding it in for 2 seconds disabled the power limiting component as well.
I believe my last Chevy worked the same way, but I never had need to turn it off.

 

It's scary just thinking about a RAM engineer designed electronics trying to steer the tie rod snapping, death wobble inducing steering system.

 

It isn't RAM engineers that are doing the TC control its TRW engineers. We're putting the final cals in order now for the '12 trucks :thumbsup:

 

^^^^^^^ LMGDAO! You know what I mean though. Sure we have problems as it is, but the alternative could be even worse.

 

With the stock tires I would want traction control. I almost went sideways in the rain around a corner. I now have 34" Nitto's and no problem. Don't notice any slip. 22" snow storm the diesel back right out of the driveway and down the street I went. Even pulled a Ford Explorer out of a snow drift. No problem with after market tires.

 

I wish they had traction control also. I remember reading an article in Diesel Power magazine about comparing all three of the "big three trucks" and the Dodge (3rd gen) having problems with traction when accelerating with a 12,000lb and it would have smoked the Dura and the PS if it had traction control.

I will tell you with the same tires, transmission and 3.73 rear ends my 2011 is much better than my 2008 was. The '08 would spin so easy on wet road it was ridiculous. I'm not sure what they did different with the 4th generation but I like it much better as it doesn't spin as easy.

If I had my way they would have traction control and an on demand transfer case option for these trucks and they would be much better….at least on the road...just my two cents...

 

Traction control is a huge plus IMHO. Especially when pulling trailers or passing vehicles in the winter time. There's no worse feeling than finding out too late that your 800 ft/lbs of torque just took control of your vehicle without your permission. And if you don't like the TC on, it's as easy as pushing a button to turn it off.

 

It's a great thing for kids who don't know how to drive yet
or folks who don't know what to do if they start to skid.

jmo
I wouldn't use it, maybe the wife would:confused013:

 

I'll agree to disagree but why couldn't Dodge at least made it an option for us kids? :rof

 

TC on my '08 Tundra was awesome. Most snowy days here in ID I would run around in 2WD with no problem. The Dodge with factory Michelins was scary even in 4WD under similar conditions. The new tires help immensely but I like the idea of a selectable TC system.

 

It seems more folks are in favor of TC. I can say that after having it I really am having a hard time buying a truck that doesnt have it. And for those who say its only for those who dont know how to drive, i ask you if have owned a truck with TC for any length of time. I just ask this because i wonder if once getting used to it you went back to no TC and did not miss it.
I recal a time in my old Duro when for no apparent reason my back end slid right out and i went into a sideways slide, i did straighten it out but i always think how the wife would have made out or how it could have gone differently if i had slid into the ditch sideways and caught an edge. This wouldnt happen in my
Ford.

 

Owned 2 Dodge trucks now and never had a problem in snow or rain. I don't think it is that big of a deal, but obviously some do. LSD rear seems to be more than enough, even though they don't do the same thing. But I don't let my wife drive my truck! :thumbsup:

 

FYI, traction control is standard on 2011 2500's

 

What is your source? I can't find it anywhere that says it is listed as a standard feature?

 

I remember the days when the traction control module was located between the driver's ears and actuated by the driver's right foot.

My 2010 Jeep has traction control. I hate it.

 

My ST has nothing extra, I love it that way. All the traction control I've ever needed is my right foot.

Cory

 

i personaly hate traction control. I live in british columbia and dont have a problem in the winter time, truck might be a little sideways once in awhile but just gotta know how to control it.

 

Funny, I had an 08 1500 Hemi with it and it actually worked great. I do know how to drive in the stuff, but it really made it a no brainer. Not sure I would let it be a deal breaker for me because be of where I live, if I lived in snowier conditions it would be more of an issue.

Of course the Dodge fanboys are gonna say "big whoop, learn to drive", but the fact is Ram/Dodge are always a day late and a dollar short in the "optional" equipment dept.

 

IMO the TC in the 2011 Ford Super Duty's sucks big time. Pressing the TC button wouldn't completely turn it off. I love having the ability to control what my truck is doing with my right foot. Plus, It is a lot of fun getting sideways in a truck.eelout

If they figure out a way to have the TC not be so intrusive and be fully defeatable then it may not be so bad. But as for myself, I prefer my trucks with out TC.

 

Yeah but we sure as hell got the big brakes way before the other brands! Optional shmoptional. I've said it before, I wanted a manual cummins.....everything beyond that was just a bonus.

I have no need for computerized traction control.

 

The ram has problems spinning the tires so I don't think it's needed, at least with 295 tires. My fords have more snap and benefit from it.