save old parts, put back on, go to dealer and hope they don't notice

chances are your AFE already voided your warranty, at least based on Dodge's point of view

 

You make a good point :beer
From what I see there are many people that will try to defraud Dodge by reinstalling their factory parts when stuffhappens. Since the delete company is a sponsor they get good press here

Bob

 

It will not technically void your entire warranty. If something breaks, they have to determine that it was directly caused by the mod. Dealer told me that a turbo failure can not be blamed on an aftermarket exhaust. But who knows what would happen when it comes down to it.

 

Better ask the dealer and see what mods they're ok w/ first.

 

If you mod your vehicle your going to void your warranty. If it was not directly linked with the mod they cannot void the warranty. Plain and simple. If you dont like the warranty issues then dont do it. I personally see all the problems being with the stuff we are trying to by pass in the first place. My exhaust has been replaced twice before I even modded the truck it needed it done. The turbo also threw the P2262 code before my intake. If they are not going to fix these problems then I will do it for them. The way I look at it it will save them money and me the pain in the of dealing with DODGE.

Bob,
Who is defrauding who? I feel pretty defrauded by having them not put oil back in my truck on the trucks very first oil change. Neither side is perfect pal.

 

No problem man.It wasn't Dodge that forgot to refill your oil.That was a personel problem the dealer had,Sadly for you it doesn't matter your truck went out dry bottom line.:beer
I do understand the frustration the 6.7 owners are dealing with.

Bob

 

So u think my intake voided the warranty? Thats Bull crap. I've heard some guys say there dealer doesnt care? Im going to talk to my dealer and ask them. I've heard some pretty impressive numbers put up from the delete systems, also the increase in mpgs. VERY tempting to do.

 

Magnuson-Moss act...

Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your aftermarket part has to directly cause the failure of the warrantied part...IE - adding a bunch of HP and torque and your tranny goes out...not Dodge's problem...

Dodge may try to give you crap for having an intake, but mention this act and they will back off...

 

now i printed his act off and read it from cover to cover. and saw nothin that protects us so i didn't push it. maybe you can help. the poor girl still has a prob when starting:CRY: i just dont know how to push the subjuct to much i guess. if there is a COOL dealer in the DFW area someone PM me. cause mine is a turd. thanks everyone is great:thumbsup

 

So if i add a programmer and what not and my tranny drops, will the warranty cover it or do i have to pay?

 

I think thats on you man. Adding horsepower to these tranny's is what kills em...

 

Waiting for the delete here ... knowing my warranty is void when I do ... No cover up ... will take my chances ... if it's a mistake on my part ... I'll pay for it. If it's a good decision I'll be happy for 10 years.

 

You have to pay to play, I would much rather have a modded truck as mine is then have to be at the dealership on a weekly basis getting my truck desooted. I know i have pretty much kissed my warranty good bye. If i break something out of my own stupidity then i will fix it out of my own pocket. If something fails that is totally un-connected to my mods then yes, i very much expect Dodge to fix it, even if that means me returning the truck to stock form and taking it it.

 

From what I've witnessed the P2262 code happens with alarming regularity, if dodge try’s to tell me that my exhaust caused my turbo to fail, it won't be hard to prove that they can't prove the exhaust was at fault! Many stock trucks have had this failure. On the other hand, if I blow my tranny, I've already accepted that responsibility, if it's not the trucks fault, I'm not going to even entertain the though of ripping someone off because of my own ignorance. Bob4x4, what gives you the notion that everyone who mod’s there trucks are trying to defraud Dodge? If you don’t like it go gripe about it on DTR! It’s my money and by god I’ve earned the right to spend it how I wish!.

 

Bob4x4, what gives you the notion that everyone who mod’s there trucks are trying to defraud Dodge? If you don’t like it go gripe about it on DTR! It’s my money and by god I’ve earned the right to spend it how I wish!.

:lol3: I see it everyday :beer
Spend your money anyway you see fit,why would it matter to me?
What does affect me is what I am concerned with.
I don't recall ever saying that everyone that mods wants to commit fraud.If I did give you that impression I am sorry for that.Mod away my friend

Bob

 

sometimes it's worth the risk. i'd rather pay out of my own pocket and have realiable vehicle, than have my pickup in the shop every other week. i have not had any problems since i did the dpf delete or the egr delete. before all of this was done, i never knew if my turbo was gonna plug and leave me stranded. all in all, it's a gamble, but what isn't?

 

Yeah, I'm fixing to bring my in for some A/C work and you can bet your @$$ i'm going to unload my prog and take off my module! if they ask me about anything I'll deny it to the grave. After all my A/C motor has nothing to do w/ a programmer, so I don't see why'd they even check in the first place..

 

Because Chrysler wants them to check the ECM for data on all warrenty claims.

That way the can tell how many hours are on your truck.

I was at the dealers today and the showed me all the info that the ECM stores.

 

Will the dealer even work on a modded truck. Mine would not unless I reinstalled my stock air box. I told them to fix it if was the afe that caused the prob. I would pay, if not they could. Just went auto zone erased code and good to go.

 

What causes the turbo to sieze or stop working? if you block the egr and do a delete kit wont that prevent it from sooting up? I dont want to buy a kit and have my turbo go out on me and have to pay for it ya know?

 

The EGR delete will cause the DPF to soot up a lot faster. Thats why when you do the EGR delete you have to do the DPF delete also.

 

I think the best way to look at it is this:

1-Putting after market accessories on your truck does NOT automatically void your warranty. As has been said many times the M&M act ensures that.

2-However, putting these mods on DOES just about guarantee that at the very least you will get hassled by the dealership depending on what type of problem you have. If you put an Edge module on and your right front wheel falls off because the bearing failed you're probably OK. But if your turbo fails they may be able to deny your claim since the turbo is electronically controlled by the ECM. Even though we know it's almost impossible for the Edge to damage the turbo, there technically is a small chance that it contributed to the failure.

3-In these cases, right or wrong, I believe we are considered guilty until proven innocent. So the burden will fall to us to prove our after market performance parts didn't cause the problem. The question is, how many of us are really prepared to take the time and spend the money to get an attorney to take a dealer or Dodge to court if they/Dodge refuse to honor a warranty claim?

Since I'm not fortunate enough to afford to keep an attorney on retainer, I suspect that if the dealership sticks to their position and my choice is pay the bill or go to court, I'm either going to pay the bill or buy the parts at NAPA and fix it myself. If the dealer backs down from the threat of court thats one thing, but if they call your bluff I just don't see it making sense to go to court unless it's a really big fix like a 10k engine replacement, especially when you consider you could go to court and lose.

I know it's not right and it sure isn't fair, but that seems to be the reality of it. So if you really enjoy modding your truck and want the performance and mpg benefits of it, go ahead and do it with your eyes wide open.

If you're on a tight budget and you can't afford to have to foot the bill if something goes wrong and the dealer refuses to fix it under warranty, then it's probably best to stay stock until your warranty expires.

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like Dear Abby on this. I guess I've spent too many years preaching to my 6 kids on stuff like this.............

 

:thumbsup Well said.

 

what kinda MPG gains are we talking about here... 6.7 is good from factory(29mph or so?) with the DPF delete and the EGR delete what kind of MPG gains are normal?

 

Every truck is different, some report 2mpg some report 5-6mpg.

 

It's not that all people think it's bad to mod with the DPF in place. It's the almost constant regen and horrendous mileage that is the problem with leaving it in place.

 

hmmm... 2-6mpg sounds good, especially when i have to drive 20 hours one way to get to work and back... after 6 or 7 trips like that a year 4mpg would be a nice treat

 

Like I said it's different on every truck so there are no guarantees.

 

ya i totally agree... any improvement is an improvement right, just not all improvements are cheap LOL

 

Nothing about these trucks is cheap

 

HAHAHA i know eh? It's even worse up here in Canada! $62,200 out the door after taxes and an $8500 deposit

 

Wacky!!! Can't take it with you I suppose

 

Spend it while you got it or you're just gonna regret it later. Have fun, turn heads, and leave a big black cloud of smoke!

is there anything else to life?

 

So far i have lost 2 injectors and issues with my tranny . And because of my mods i flipped the bill for the injectors , tranny and torque converter.. I went to 3 different dealerships and no one wanted anything to do with it .. When i took it to the shop yesterday for them to look at the tranny the even noted in the work order that I had my AC condenser removed and that the 2 air condition lines where just hanging there. They listed every single mod and change that i made to may truck on the work order and flagged it in the system.

 

Not all dealers will void your warranty for the dpf delete. I was asking questions to a service manager the other day about what to do about poor fuel economy in the 6.7 CTD trucks. The first thing he mentioned is that I could install a DPF delete kit and EGR delete kit on my truck to improve fuel economy. I could not believe my ears when he told me that! When I asked about voiding my warranty he said that so far they have not voided any warrantys for these two mods. After I take my truck to them for service I will give you guys a more conclusive report.

 

:woot2:Hey Rockwerx! Is there any way to get ur dealer to put that in writing? If he says it doesnt void the warranty and actually advises you to do a dpf delete, then thats a green light for everybody :woot2:

 

I don't think hes going to put it in writing
you have to make your own choice on what to do ,but like bob 4x4 has been trying to say ,don't cry when something goes wrong ,i was up front with my dealer and told them what i have done to the truck and they where ok with it , so much they had mangers and tech take it on a 140 mile test run with it hooked to a pc and a star scan .but i have read on here many times about guys putting there truck back stock to take it in to save a buck ,or a 10,000 motor. i say if you cant pay don't play