I've recently heard that you can stack a Smarty on something with timing and use the Smarty timing. That the VP can't provide enough timing to hurt anything.

 

I would like to know more about this.......:drool2:

 

Thanks for this there have been way to many of those threads here lately

 

thats kinda what i saw, and wanted to clear up.

Yeah thanks it should clear up some confusion.

i hope so.

 

Yeah thanks it should clear up some confusion.

 

That link should be a sticky

 

Yeah they need to sticky this, i see a new thread everyday. If its not at the top of the page eveyone starts a new thread like the search button doesnt exist.

 

Yes sticky this so people wont thread, do a little research on there own. Good Job:thumbsup:

 

Good idea for a thread :thumbsup: here's a BTT before it becomes a sticky

 

thanks for all the positive feedback yall

 

I can't remember the thread it was in but if I come across it again I'll post it here. :thumbsup:

 

Yeah I'm not speaking from experience nor would I try it but I'm just passing on a little info I've heard a couple times.

 

Check out the last post in this thread.
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/9...2-performance-parts-discussion/196336-has-anyone-stacked-adrenaline-smarty.html

 

yeah.... i would take post 12 with a grain of salt. unless he knows somthing we dont...

 

I don't see anything about that. Post #12 is BS in my opinion. 62lbs of boost with just a stack? Not possible. That takes injectors.

 

M5's= Mach 5's
and it says adrenaline on kill (everything) and smarty with timing on 4.

 

It's in this thread too.
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/98-5-02-performance-parts-discussion/200616-comp-box-smarty.html

 

hua... id like to talk to that guy. he may have big lines, and tubes also. (which retard timing) so that might be why he can run his timing that advanced. he is mechanicaly retatding his timing, so he can electronicaly advance his timing. :confused013:

 

My experience when stacking timing with timing was the truck rattled like it was 20* outside and it fell on its face at about 2000 rpm.....

 

BlackedOut02 poaching my spreadsheet huh? :lol3:

I had made a thread about this in the past. The spreadsheet is just a work of my best knowledge and advice from others. So don't hold it as the absolute truth on the matter. If anyone has suggestions/corrections, please let me know.

 

i never said it was mine

kudos on the spreadsheet though :thumbsup:

 

So when everybody puts bigger tubes and lines on and they say there was no power gain is that beacause they actually retarded the timing ...so when you put the bigger lines on and then bumped the timing back up where it should be you would probably notice a power gain ????? Let me know if this is correct or just bass ackwards

 

that actually seems to make sense to me, if nothing else it would be equal to the power you had I would think

 

I'm not sure I buy that. I've heard some pretty bad timing rattles before.

Same here....mine rattles now with just the Van Akenn.
It's not bad after the truck warms up and takes out a little timing but you can still hear it once in awhile.

But for some reason my stock VP sounds like a Monster pump....so I may have some other issues going on too.

 

someone with a smarty needs to do some testing i am going to be running .084 tubes this next week and mathew8pt is drillin out some delivery valves for my VP so we will do some testing and see what happens that way i might have to join the crowd and go smarty crazy

 

let me know im gonna send my tubes over to........ thanks patracy and Blackedout02

 

I was told you can stack a Xzillaraider with a XZT+?how does this work when they both plug into the data link and the MAP?

 

I had the 120 hp Xzillaraider (lime green box) and XZT+ stacked before I bought the adrenaline. I liked it. The Xzillaraider taps the pump, APPS, and MAP sensor. The XZT+ only uses the MAP and data link. So install the Xzillraider first on the map, then the XZT+ to it. When stacking you want the more powerful box to have the MAP sensor first.

 

so i can stack a smarty with my juice with att. as long as i keep the smarty on even numbers?? or it will over time??

 

yep. :thumbsup: the even numbers are just fuel, no timing

 

Yes that's perfectly fine.

 

Just tossing this out.......

You can also do the Fueling box/timing box/Smarty on even numbers stack. Just a FYI.

 

yeah but SOMEONE was too scared to try the tst comp/mvp/smarty stack (with a set of 150's... on a stock turbo...)

 

So if I wanted to stack a edge comp with a smarty would I have to run the smarty on even numbers? Or should I not consider stacking the two?

 

you would love the stack (or be the first guy i know who dosnt) you would want to do just the even numbers on the smarty. your comp box is adding timing, so you dont need anymore timing from the smarty. :thumbsup: