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Anyone have DPF Delete troubles with the law?

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Hey guys i have a 07 6.7, smarty, dpf delete, and intake. Has anyone ever ran into trouble with the law as far as getting pulled over an they questioning your emission statis? I guess i am more conserned about crossing multi state lines, i live in WI an we haul the quads down to Oklahoma to go ridin, and also haul sleds out west to ride. Just curious if anyone has been stopped to be checked? What should a guy do or say? I got pulled over by a couple of city cops about a month ago for speeding, an my truck ran the whole time while they made me walk a straight line and so on(you guys know what i mean) they never questioned my exhaust. My guess is i should be more concered about a sheriff or state trooper. What do you guys think?
 
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Nope, they cant till '10 and even then it will be on '10 and newer.. Troopers/state dont care its the city guys that will get you on noise. But legally your clear
 
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If you live in Calf. I would worry. From what I have read in the latest Diesel mags and Sema, Calf will be doing inspections and random stops of diesel trucks to see if they are in compliance.
Please review Diesel World December 2009 issue under the heading of "Diesel Emissions Inspections on the Way".
Hope this helps you?
 
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If you live in Calf. I would worry. From what I have read in the latest Diesel mags and Sema, Calf will be doing inspections and random stops of diesel trucks to see if they are in compliance.
I've witnessed a few light duty diesels pulled over by the California Highway Patrol Commercial Enforcement department, from speeding by at 70mph neither of the trucks appeared to be running commercially so it might just be a coincidence.

Regardless when California sees a revenue stream in enforcing all emissions laws for light duty diesels they will do it.

I'm seriously considering taking my stealth delete one step further and slapping on some HEMI badges with a fake gasser looking exhaust in the rear. :doh:
 
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The local sheriffs department sometimes hangs out in the museum parking lot where I work. A coworker and I were doing my DPF delete during a long lunch one day and one sheriff pulled into the lot. At that moment I had everything disconnected but the DPF was still under the truck, I was taping up the sims.

There was a snow bank melting and to him it looked like the truck was leaking coolant. I told him no, it's snow, and he confirmed that after he got out of his car. I just told him I was doing some electrical work.

He let us get back to work, his words were, "Lunches don't last forerver."

:lol4:
 
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#7 ·
I have a cousin who has a friend that knows a guy............................. LOL
 
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#8 ·
DOT is really who you need to look out for, I haul a big race car trailer and so does my buddy, we haven't done it yet, but the easiest way to keep those guys off your butt, at least out east is to put not for hire on the trailer.

Another guy we race with got hassled once. He has a 3 axle pull behind that's huge.

You start pulling anything commercial and I would begin to worry, private no worries, except for maybe in Cali, which is shame, because besides their BS politics I like a lot of places out there. North Cali, Big Bear Lake, San Diego all nice, LA not so much.
 
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DOT wont mess with any light weight trucks esp for exhaust. Our rigs run gutted 6" stacks and we dont even get looked at sideways.. Exhaust is the furthest from a DOT cops mind.
 
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Maybe in Texas...but Hotshot something through an emissions state with DOT Regs on your doors and no DPF and see what happens.

In Norfolk Virginia they won't even let non-compliant non-certified clean truckers enter the 3rd largest port on the East Coast and southern Virginia isn't even an auto emissions state. Every commerical truck has to have a certified clean logo on the front fender to enter the ports here. Get stopped with one and you're not, you are getting hooked up on the back of a wrecker.

When it comes to commerical, things are getting tighter especially for over the road and MY Specific Emissions equipment.
 
#12 ·
i dont think that most people will have any problems as long as you dont go rolling smoke threw town with a cop sitting there or something stupid.

even with the 5 inch exhaust on these trucks there not that load .

alot of guys around here have loud truck mostly gas jobs but they get most of the atention from the cops and these punk kids in town.


and when i got my inspection the guy said oh no i wont inspect your truck is not stock emmisions wise. but he never even looked at that stuff. kind of a lick and stick job .


but i figure i wave a 20 or 50 in front of there face they will lokk the other way if they even pay atention to it.


and oh yeah no problems with the cops up here in the north country!
 
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i work in AZ and they have a meater that they check the exhaust with don't remember techical name, but i only see semi's stopped, i got stopped 4 weeks ago going to work for my JD l/plate bracket covering up the name of the state and left truck running and nothing said about exhaust:thumbsup:
 
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I got pulled over in Fort Lauderdale about 6 months ago, a camero was tail gating me and he took me on coming down the on-ramp. I still had my PMT with all the deletes, I was rolling some serious coal, to my suprise there was a miami police car with his lights on behind me when the smoke cleared, I never made it over 75 mph. I pulled over, all he asked was why the truck just made a serious driving hazard on the freeway? I told him straight up it was because of a programmer. He said get it it fixed and if he had been highway patrol he would have wrote me a ticket....SO far so good.
 
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my brother is a cop here in memphis tn, he told me he dont get paid enough to give a damn about exhaust lol. He said most of your cops wont know how or what to look for, he said the only way he will look at an exhaust system is if it is full of weed or meth lol. as far as the DOT is concerned I think they are more worried about someone being overwieght, and or burning off road fuel (red fuel).
 
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Texas, no worries.
I hang out with a few troopers, they always want to know what the latest mod is, but in their own interest, not for enforcement. They are well aware of the straight pipe, and couldn't care less. "sure is quiet" is the type of stuff I hear about the straight pipe. They don't give a crap about the EPA, or what my truck does, they look for top dollar stuff, drugs, overloads, illegals, mostly big rig stuff. They really don't mess with 4 wheels unless you are over 85 mph.
 
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#19 ·
I work for a fairly large County department, over 300 commissioned. Within my county there are several City agencies, plus State patrol. I work with and know many from them all. I have never heard anybody ever talk about taking enforcement action on modded trucks, nor express any interest in doing so..........PS look at my sig
 
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#20 ·
About a month ago I was sitting in the terminal waiting for the ferry. Wa. State troopers were using their dogs to sniff for drugs and I noticed a second trooper without a dog come up to the rear of my truck. He looks at my exhaust, then slowly walks around the passenger front of the truck making eye contact with me. About this time I am starting to wonder what the heck I did and he comes around and motions for me to lower the window, I ask if something is wrong and he asks if my 5" exhaust goes all the way up to my turbo? Figured no guts no glory, so I said yes it does, and he just smiles and says he has an 03 and wants to hear mine start up. About that time the ferry was in and loading, so I did, he grinned and said it sounded way better then his! My stomach never tasted so good as when it went all the way back down, lol.
 
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#23 ·
I notice alot of people in Texas and some 'middle' states seem to think that the emissions restrictions won't effect them. Isn't Texas on the verge of adopting California style testing? I think most the Western States are only a few years from going to that.

By the way, have any of you noticed that the Global Warming meeting thing going on in Copenhagen is stirring up quit a bit of stuff. I've heard that some want to eliminate fossi fuel in the next 10-20 years. Crazy. I hope Cummins is working on a electric motor...
 
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#24 ·
So what happens when someone goes to California form some other state. I may be going to central Cal after the 1st of the yr, pulling a 32ft camper. Just curious if I should be careful or not. :confused013:
 
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#25 ·
Don't sweat it. They are not even doing inspections yet and when they do they will just do drive in like here. If it was going to be that big of a deal they would be pulling over every honda, toyota, Subaru racer around because 9 out of 10 of them are all out of comliance

Chris
 
#26 ·
I hate to say it but I hope some of the aftermarket gets busy getting CARB stamps for their tuner/injectors/intakes etc. If we get f'd California style you will fail an emissions inspection with 'ANY' non factor part or 'ANY' non function component under the hood. Seems sooner or later we'll have some CARB approved stuff. Won't be higher power that's for sure.
 
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#27 ·
Jan 2010 wisconsin will start emissions testing on 07 and newer diesel trucks. from what the dot site said they will not perform a so called snap test or tail pipe test but a computer test. My ? is if you have a programmer is that an automatic fail like if you had a cel?
 
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#28 ·
If they just designed trucks that we could run with emissions stuff on, get good mileage and up the power, I'd never take the stuff off, I could care less if black smoke comes out the pipe. But today's emission solution is a bandaid on the consumers pocket book.
 
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I am a Deputy Sheriff in northwest LA, but I make my living using my '07 3500 to pull hotshot loads on my days off from the Sheriff's Office. First of all, I, as a law enforcement officer, couldn't care less if someone is running a truck without the dpf or with the egr blocked off, and out of all the police officers (deputies, state troopers, city police, city marshalls, etc.) I know, none of them is either. I get stopped and inspected on a regular basis, as do other drivers in our fleet, and never, not once, has a DOT trooper popped the hood, got under the truck, or even asked if my truck was still equipped with all the B.S. dpf equipment. I generally don't worry about it, the only time I did was after I deleted all that junk and installed the BADP fooler box and straight exhaust. And by "worry" I mean I took about a minute to remove the "6.7 LITER" cowling off the front of the valve cover. Hell, I wouldn't even know in what section of the Louisiana Revised Statutes book to look for a law concerning a dpf! I do know that you don't want to get get stopped in Oklahoma without an IFTA sticker on your truck!
 
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I'm surprised that as a law enforcement officer you would knowingly break a federal law, and then write a post to everybody saying you did it. Isn't it your job to uphold the laws of this nation and your state even if you think they are a bunch of BS? That was my understanding when I took the oath anyhow....
 
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#32 · (Edited)
lol,
This post has some great responses to his/her original question.

Looks to me that the simple answer is the only ones with problems are in Kalifornia.

Here in Pennsylvania, the law for Diesel vehilces is that all are Emmission EXEMPT and do not have to be tested.

It also say's, can not increase the sound over stock exhaust. It also say's that to test the sound level, it must be tested in accordance with FACTORY TESTING of the sound level.
UNINFORCEABLE in PA for Sound level.
Do you know of a Motor Vehilce FACTORY in Pa? I dont.

Ok. Drive on! Here is Pa's law Pay attn to the red part.

§ 175.105. Exhaust systems.
(a) Condition of exhaust system. All components of the exhaust system shall be in safe operating condition as described in § 175.110 (relating to inspection procedure).

(b) Exhaust system requirements. A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be constructed, equipped, maintained and operated to prevent engine exhaust gases from penetrating and collecting in any part of the vehicle occupied by the driver or a passenger, in addition to the requirements of this title for emission control systems and smoke control for a diesel-powered vehicle.

(1) A vehicle specified under this subchapter shall be equipped with a muffler or other effective noise-suppressing system in good working order and in constant operation. A muffler or exhaust system may not be equipped with a cutout, bypass or similar device, and a muffler may not show evidence of external repair.

(2) The exhaust system of a vehicle may not be modified in a manner which will amplify or increase noise emitted by the motor of a vehicle above the maximum level permitted by Chapter 157 (relating to established sound levels).

(3) Headers and side exhaust are permitted if the vehicle meets the requirements of this section.

(4) An exposed exhaust system shall be equipped with an adequate heat shield or protective system.

(5) An exhaust system shall extend and discharge completely to the outside edge of the vehicle body, including a truck bed, or as originally designed, except for the following:

(i) Heavy trucks or truck tractors. The exhaust system of every heavy truck and truck tractor shall discharge to the atmosphere at a location to the rear of the cab or, if the exhaust projects above the cab, at a location near the rear of the cab.

(ii) Gasoline powered buses, including school buses. The exhaust system of a bus powered by a gasoline engine shall discharge to the atmosphere at or within 6 inches forward of the rearmost part of the bus. Until June 15, 1998, the tailpipe of school buses may extend to, but not beyond the body limits on the left side of the school bus within 60 inches of the left rear wheel as measured from the center of the wheel axis.

(iii) Buses, including school buses, powered by fuels other than gasoline. The exhaust system of a bus using fuels other than gasoline shall discharge to the atmosphere either at or within 15 inches forward of the rearmost part of the vehicle; or to the rear of all doors or windows designed to be opened, except windows designed to be opened solely as emergency exits. Until June 15, 1998, the tailpipe of school buses may extend to, but not beyond the body limits on the left side of the school bus within 60 inches of the left rear wheel as measured from the center of the wheel axis.

(c) Exemption. A firefighting vehicle is exempt from this section.
 
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