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which one would you use

  • diesel kleen

    Votes: 31 74%
  • howes

    Votes: 11 26%

additives

3.9K views 26 replies 17 participants last post by  Saiyan66  
#1 ·
diesel kleen or howes
 
#3 ·
im looking for lubrication and the best
 
#10 ·
#5 ·
Your poll is whack...you ask a general question but limit the response to two additives.
 
#9 ·
I agree. I have tried just about every additive I could find and have found little known ones that can out perform these two....:confused013:
 
#6 ·
Not sure if diesel kleen actually helps mpg, but it does quiet down the engine.
 
#7 ·
For the money, it's tough to beat Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000. It's well rated on the test and if you shop around you can get it pretty dang cheap (a gallon that treats 2000 gallons of diesel costed me $40 last year).
 
#8 ·
Read Owners Manual about lake of need for additives in general.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Too bad Opti-Lube XPD and Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000 aren't carried at every local Walmart like Power Service Diesel Kleen+ Cetane Boost is.

If I could find it locally I would use it. I believe a little extra fuel system lubrication is a good thing.
 
#13 ·
I use Howe's only in the winter anti-gelling formula.

Jim W.
 
#14 ·
Other than for keeping fuel from gelling, why is extra lubricity important to you guys? Aren't the motors built for the fuel that is available at the pumps?

Also, did you know that biodiesel 5% is naturally used with ULSD without a lot of people knowing it? I used to be a fuel manager for a huge fleet and when I was going through a large fuel contract every fuel vendor specified they use "neat biodiesel" 5% to stay within the proper lubricity guidlines. This was in Arizona, so I don't know if its the same everywhere else. (Neat biodiesel means it is made from direct vegtable oils, NOT recycled grease,)
 
#17 ·
If the fuel you get is always perfect , clean, with the correct amount of additives from the MFG, stored correctly, didn't get contaminated, or is under 27days of age your right additives are not necessary,.

The world is far from perfect and so is the fuel.

You may not need it, I think of it as an insurance policy.


Fuel can go bad in 27days, fuel can age in your tank and who knows what happened to it on it's journey fron the refinery to the station every steep is a chance for contamination.
 
#19 · (Edited)
I have heard that the additive they use for lubricity is not added until it gets to the distribution point,,,,,where ever that may be!! So there are lots of different people adding lubricity and you really never know if they have skimped on how much they put in.
When diesel had all that sulper in it, it really lubed the engine, which is one of the reasons diesels lasted so long. The other reason was low rpms.
But in my shop, we are seeing things like rocker arm assemblies seizing up, hash marks on the cyl walls wearing off much too soon, etc. Not only have they taken the sulper out of the fuel, but for the sake of the DPF, they have removed things like Calcium and potassium from the oil, as it causes ash in the DPF. So we have also lost lubricity in the one thing that was meant to lubricate the engine.
Opti lube also makes an Oil fortifier, that puts a lot of the "Slippery" back in the oil.
It only requires use at oil changes instead of at each fill up. I think this is a really good idea, especially for older trucks and deleted ones as well. ")
 
#21 ·
Just my 2 cents. I doubt the manufacturers care if they wear out faster. They were required to warranty the dpf for 100k miles. So the manufacturers made the Gov take the sulfer out of the fuel, and the additives out of the oil that cause ash in the DPF. Or they wouldn't agree to the warranty.
I don't see anyone in this mix that cares a hoot about how much it costs us. Am I wrong?
 
#23 ·
I buy the Opti-lube XPD for my truck. I run it at 1/4oz per gallon of fuel which is the minimum concentration that they recommend. It really doesn't cost that much. I think I spent $50 on the bottle and it will last me 10k miles. Here is a tip for dispensing the stuff. Buy a 32oz narrow mouth Nalgene bottle to store it in. These are leakproof and keep odors in. They have gradations on the bottle so you can measure when you fill up. They also fit very nicely in the 4th gen door cup holders.

Oh and I did spend the money on proper fuel filtration as well. But I wanted the added benefit of the extra lubrication as well.
 
#25 ·
I went with the GDP Mk2 kit. It mounts under the hood between the stock filter and the fuel rail. I has a 2 micron filter and larger fuel lines just in case you need more fuel as the mods increase later on. Don't have any pics but I think there are some on Glacier Diesel's website.
 
#26 ·
How was the install on that kit? I have been looking at putting something in between the stock filter.
 
#27 ·
To be honest I haven't installed it yet. It came in and then I got called in to work and haven't had a day off in 27 days. From the directions it seems pretty simple to install. Just priming the system is really important so you don't have air in the fuel system.