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Of course. Here is the simple list of reasons why:

1) Up until 2007.5 less restrictive items were added to the truck, which has translated to less areas for mechanical and electrical problems
2) Space in the engine bay to work and add mods, like our fuel filter kits
3) Power
4) Love the engine and exhaust sound. Not as loud as the 2nd gen but not as quiet as the new trucks.
4) Overall, they seem more reliable than a lot of the newer trucks.

Downside:
1) Shameless product plug, we offer some sweet things for the 6.7 that don't work on the early 3rd gens.
2) I do find that I enjoy the bells and whistles inside the cab and the old 3rd gens are pretty basic(very functional, but basic)
Thanks for answering.

I just find it very interesting when this happens. I almost sold my third gen this year, and several guys that have done it all talked me out of it. Everyone of them says they wish they had kept their third gen instead of getting something else. They all missed having a pre 6.7 truck is what I think is what it really comes down to.
 

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It鈥檚 kind of funny, because I actually miss my 2012...

But if I sell my 04, I will miss it as well...

I can鈥檛 have 2 trucks either...



This is a problem
 

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It鈥檚 kind of funny, because I actually miss my 2012...

But if I sell my 04, I will miss it as well...

I can鈥檛 have 2 trucks either...



This is a problem
This right here. This sums it up for every Cummins owner when looking to go to the next gen or next engine. lol
 

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@RomeoOne Both engines have their pros and cons, no doubt. Just really depends what you want from truck, what you want to do with it and really what your level of comfort is with certain things that come with each gen or engine change.
 

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I personally feel lucky years later that I ended up with the 2005 I have. Turned out to be easy to swap over to the G56, does not have some of the electrical issues that came in '06 and meets my needs... point A to point B day after day... well with the slight hickup last summer.

@Glacier Diesel Power probably dont remember the call but in June/July time frame I called asking about the regulator that you had with the old walbro kits... found the root cause of all the headaches... the walbro finally bit the big one and started shorting out. It was somehow taking down the CP3 FCA control. Found zero ticking under the hood with key on, pulled power to the pump and clicking returned. Swapped in a spare pump and been flawless since. I put that kit in back in 2011 or so and that particular pump in 2012 (first one died early on). Love the kit, simple, easy to work on and does the job. 250K (?) or so on the truck since I did that install.
 

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@steve05ram360, funny, I feel fortunate to have an 06.

The root cause of most 06 electrical issues are grounding/power connections and lack of understanding. Thanks to this forum, I made a few mods early on to protect the TIPM and ECU. Other than a pesky position sensor it's been reliable.

I can't and will NOT try to defend the 06 Tach! Mine hasn't worked in years.

06 has the same lift pump as the early 6.7s. Mine last 200,000 miles.

Ecu works with EFLive.

I think that each model year have strengths and weaknesses. If we could put each years strengths together, we would have a great truck.
 

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Pros:
Solid drivetrain, good reliability
Good front seats, very comfortable
Simple interior, no whistles and bells
Far better than my 96

Cons:
I do not like the NV5600... at all!
I wish somebody made a e-locker for the 11.5 AAM rear end. It has only been around for 18 years now.
Stock LSD is anemic
I wish it were a bit quieter above 2000rpm

Verdict: No way am I selling it!
 

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I feel that the 2003 is the holy_grail of the (24v) CUMMINS experience. We could get tedious about Dodge idiosyncrasies, but we live w/ them. LoL. It's worth it. Our trucks quintessentially represent the reason someone wants a diesel equipped pickup.

*Reliability... Basic maintenance makes all the diff. Doing this, and you'll have a great truck. Clean fluids and filters make such a significant difference that you can audibly hear the sound of clean. (My opinion...)

*Emissions... Enough said. LoL. Seriously though... This plays into the holy_grail effect. For me, it's all about MPG's. I constantly try to one up myself. I drive like a very old man. (safe and slow) And I get insanely good MPG's. The lack of emission/restriction really helps me extract more and more. I remember reading buyer's responses to to the 6.7 transition, and dudes were pissed off at paying quite the premium for their trucks only to get "gas" like MPG's... (Don't flame me... I'm just saying what I remember.)

*Power... Beyond adequate. Actually, kick_ass.

*Sound... Stout, and OG. Love it.

I would never steer someone away from this truck. I would just say if you get one, then start from zero w/ all maintenance. Assume nothing was done. Dump ALL fluids and filters and start from there. Find your own preferences... There are no wrong decisions w/ fluid preferences. New and clean reign supreme.

Last thing... This is just me. I religiously let my truck warm up for 5min before I drive it daily. That means 5min before work. 5min before heading home. I'm telling you, this engine loves it. My opinion.
 

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I agree with a lot of what has been said so far about this truck so here is my short list. I switched over to my 03 with auto 47re from a 99 K2500 with the 6.5 turbo diesel and 5 spd so my experience is based on that.

Pros:
-5.9 Power (even though mine is an early CA truck with weaker engine but has a sticker in engine bay that its been tuned, just not sure to how much hp/tq) has been plenty to tow 10k lb through any overpass in CA,NV,OR
-Shortest wheel base for a quad cab short bed diesel truck which is great for my off road adventures
-Simple design makes it easy to work on without needing expensive computers
-Looks great and has tons of aftermarket part support

Cons:
-47re currently at 133k which works great so far (not sure of its maintenance/rebuild history) so I'm always nervous when towing my trailer long distance. need to look into preventative maintenance.
-Rough ride quality (compared to the IFS on my k2500) can be improved with aftermarket springs/shocks by CJC/Thuren/Fox products (still on my list to do)
-Occasional electrical gremlins (random beeps on dashboard and warning light that a light is out but all lights are working)
-Worst factory seats ever (even compared to the bench seat in my k2500)
 

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Love the drivetrain
The main thing that bugs me about mine is no backup camera, but obviously there are aftermarket solutions for that
 

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Love the drivetrain
The main thing that bugs me about mine is no backup camera, but obviously there are aftermarket solutions for that
There is a tailgate handle that has one built in... IIRC...
 

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Pros:
Good visibility
Good steering for a truck this long
Back seat has metal cargo platform... perfect for dogs
Great brakes (had to hit em very hard to avoid being hit head on)
Looks as good as a "modern" pickup can
Seat seems perfect for me (just need to add a seat heater for perfection)...I have back problems so this is very important point!
Working on this is going to get me back into mechanics.
Manual transmission
Edit: people coming the other way on dirt roads pull way over and sometimes just stop馃榾

Cons:
Headlights...too weak already killed one rabbit just glad it wasn't a deer
Feel like I'm 10 when looking at engine
Differential off set annoying while steering over rocks... need skid plates for sure
Need spacers to fit Toyo R/T (great tires I have on f250)
Very bouncy needs good shocks... which are in short supply just now it seems
Reverse is in crap location on TA5600 and requires a few second pause before going into it (or maybe double clutching would work)

I'm sure this list will change as I get more hours on it
 

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There is a tailgate handle that has one built in... IIRC...
I have seen camera in the 3rd brake light on new trucks. That seems a good place as wires are easy to route there.
Other thing, if i ever tow an RV, I would like a camera at the back of the RV, anyone know how to set that up?

My likes and dislikes mirror other peoples comments.
I could add the dumb trans cooling like the separate block mounted AT cooler, vibrating there till it metal fatigues, or corrodes and fails ruining the trans, and the smallish ATF forward cooler with dumb thermostat that fails causing the trans to overheat, along with the check ball inline that can block the flow. Not putting in the valve in the valve body that allows AT fluid flow in park.
 

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I have seen camera in the 3rd brake light on new trucks. That seems a good place as wires are easy to route there.
Other thing, if i ever tow an RV, I would like a camera at the back of the RV, anyone know how to set that up?

My likes and dislikes mirror other peoples comments.
I could add the dumb trans cooling like the separate block mounted AT cooler, vibrating there till it metal fatigues, or corrodes and fails ruining the trans, and the smallish ATF forward cooler with dumb thermostat that fails causing the trans to overheat, along with the check ball inline that can block the flow. Not putting in the valve in the valve body that allows AT fluid flow in park.
I think I have seen that on the 3rd gen as well, dont quote me on it though, its been a while
 

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and here it is...

 
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I have a 08鈥 6.8, but I wanna play. I鈥檒l stick to our common parts

Like:
How easy it is to work on
The body design and grill
The factory wheels
The smaller 4door cab
The dash look and feel
Good visibility
Sound
Efficiency for a 2500
4wd

dislike:
The front seats! Horrible
Factory fuel filtration (quality and service location)
Headlights
Interior lights
Steering setup


I also love my factory EB and 68rfe, but that鈥檚 for the other 3rd gems. :D
 

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@s10010001 check out our aftermarket filtration kit. It makes it much easier to maintain and it compliments the factory setup. 馃憤 definitely a must have for 3rd gen and 4th gen. Filtration on these trucks is a must.
 

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and here it is...

up high gives you a good view. I have been looking at these rear view mirror cams too. They replace or clip over the existing mirror and give a greater view. The night vision can be stunningly good on them, in color. 1080p or even higher HD picture on the entire mirror.

When tied into the reverse light, they show dotted reversing lane lines.

They have forward facing and rear camera and can record video saving it to a small card. So they are a road camera constantly taking video.

If you watch dash cam video on youtube, that is what some people are using.
 

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Here is another option... you mention dash cams, this one can be installed in the reward position as well. I have this on my windshield, need to hook power up to it. The day I tested it I was impressed, just never finished the install.


And... to be honest, I forgot it was there it is so small (cant see it from drivers seat with where I positioned it)
 
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Other thing, if i ever tow an RV, I would like a camera at the back of the RV, anyone know how to set that up?
I too would like a camera at the back of our RV. Just to verify what wifey is trying to communicate with me with all the waving arms!

Lately the range of the wireless camera's and TPMS systems have improved so that a wireless camera at the rear of an RV can now be reliable.
This is and was not always the case with wireless systems on a RV trailer.
You had to run a cable from the rear RV camera all the way up to the hitch and then to the cab of the truck.
 
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