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I just got back from the stealership. I had noticed a bad humming noise comming from the tires this weekend while on a trip. I looked at the tires and they had slight feathering. took it to a tire/alignment shop on the road and they flat out said that it was out of alignment and anytime you replace or remove any steering components you need to re align.
Well dealer ended up re aligning (the toe was out 1.75 on both tires) and also replacing all four tires. Anyone that had the recall done should check thier tires.

On edit: IF the recall is performed properly there will be no problems. This is for anyone else like me that had a recall that was some how screwed up.
 

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I just got back from the stealership. I had noticed a bad humming noise comming from the tires this weekend while on a trip. I looked at the tires and they had slight feathering. took it to a tire/alignment shop on the road and they flat out said that it was out of alignment and anytime you replace or remove any steering components you need to re align.
Well dealer ended up re aligning (the toe was out 1.75 on both tires) and also replacing all four tires. Anyone that had the recall done should check thier tires.
damn that sux. did you get a receipt? take it to the stealership for reimbursement!
 

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Yep they did the work and paid for the new tires. I am sure that chrysler will pay for other wise it would have been harder to get it done.
 

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They replaced them with what was on the truck fatory.

Because they took them off one of the trucks on the lot. Becuse they did not have them in stock
 

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Hey Longshot
In all fairness to everybody there is obviously something wrong with your assertion. The H36 recall for replacing the drag link tie rod end by itself does not in any manner affect the toe setting or have the capability of impacting the wear on your tires. However if one of the other tie rod ends were replaced at the same time or another time then that could cause a wear condition. How did the tires on the rear solid axle get worn? In a Drag link arrangement, the drag link end is solely for the purpose of steering wheel centering .
Toe in or toe out is accomplished by adjusting the outer tie rod ends, not disturbed in recall H36. So for the record and accuracy the warning is not accurate. Also if the "Alignment Guy" doesn't know this , then maybe you should avoid him.
Ill try to attach a screen shot for the sake of discussion.
Now if the dealer never changed an outer tie rod end, then you really beat him up wrongly and he gave you tires just to make you happy. The factory under no circumstances is going to reimburse him for the tires. However a dealer will often go the extra mile to satisfy a customer , even when the customer is wrong.
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i agree with regen, but i took my 08 in for a safety recallon drag link and fought them cause the alignment rack was down and didnt want to give a loner, they HAVE TO align ant time they mess with steering, i also walked in front door to TEST DRIVE a newtruck and kept it till my truck was done
 

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Hey Longshot
In all fairness to everybody there is obviously something wrong with your assertion. The H36 recall for replacing the drag link tie rod end by itself does not in any manner affect the toe setting or have the capability of impacting the wear on your tires. However if one of the other tie rod ends were replaced at the same time or another time then that could cause a wear condition. How did the tires on the rear solid axle get worn? In a Drag link arrangement, the drag link end is solely for the purpose of steering wheel centering .
Toe in or toe out is accomplished by adjusting the outer tie rod ends, not disturbed in recall H36. So for the record and accuracy the warning is not accurate. Also if the "Alignment Guy" doesn't know this , then maybe you should avoid him.
Ill try to attach a screen shot for the sake of discussion.
Now if the dealer never changed an outer tie rod end, then you really beat him up wrongly and he gave you tires just to make you happy. The factory under no circumstances is going to reimburse him for the tires. However a dealer will often go the extra mile to satisfy a customer , even when the customer is wrong.
Charlie
I am no mechanic or an alignment specialist.
I called two different alignment shops and consulted with two ase master techs before going to dealer. They all assured me it was possible to throw out the alignment by doing the drag link. Also, aint it funny that only my front tires start feathering after the recall was done. The dealer Tech himself said it should have had an alignment. So it is up to you it is your truck. I am just putting out my experience for others to consider. I myself will believe the mechnics I talked to and the fact that my alignment was off. By the way are you an alignment specialist.
 

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Hi Longshot
I attached a shot of a drag link arrangement for the sake of discussion. Toe= is determined by the distance between the # 5's , longer or shorter to increase or decrease the distance "Toe-In or Toe-Out". Caster or Camber are not involved in this discussion. The Drag Link tie rod end #2 in the illustration is for steering wheel centering in relationship to the thrustline of the vehicle. Again in no manner shape or form, relates to tire wear (only a crooked steering wheel).

Now again I want to reiterate, if no other parts were changed during the recall or at any other time, then the mis-alignment that you had was NOT caused at the dealership.

For summary, there are plenty of tech's on this site that understand the rudiments of steering geometry, and I would he happy to discuss this in a technical discussion. You can do as you wish, but my advice is to avoid the guys who have told you different than I have (including the dealer tech).

As to my qualifications. Yes I am an alignment specialist as well as all other ASE certified automotive catagories. Master Certified (formerly, since I find it unnecessary to keep recertifying, Let my certs expire in the mid 90's, now a Master Certified Service Manager. Also taught all catagories of automotive trade school for 5 years.).

It appears that the dealership took care of you and doesn't merit the reference "Stealership". Maybe the alignment guys should inherit the title.
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"I called two different alignment shops and consulted with two ase master techs before going to dealer. They all assured me it was possible to throw out the alignment by doing the drag link." In this trade we all love to throw our competitors under the bus, in fact we can't resist when the opportunity arises, sometimes it's hard to tell if thats what someone is doing or is just a moron.
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Hi Longshot
I attached a shot of a drag link arrangement for the sake of discussion. Toe= is determined by the distance between the # 5's , longer or shorter to increase or decrease the distance "Toe-In or Toe-Out". Caster or Camber are not involved in this discussion. The Drag Link tie rod end #2 in the illustration is for steering wheel centering in relationship to the thrustline of the vehicle. Again in no manner shape or form, relates to tire wear (only a crooked steering wheel).

Now again I want to reiterate, if no other parts were changed during the recall or at any other time, then the mis-alignment that you had was NOT caused at the dealership.

For summary, there are plenty of tech's on this site that understand the rudiments of steering geometry, and I would he happy to discuss this in a technical discussion. You can do as you wish, but my advice is to avoid the guys who have told you different than I have (including the dealer tech).

As to my qualifications. Yes I am an alignment specialist as well as all other ASE certified automotive catagories. Master Certified (formerly, since I find it unnecessary to keep recertifying, Let my certs expire in the mid 90's, now a Master Certified Service Manager. Also taught all catagories of automotive trade school for 5 years.).

It appears that the dealership took care of you and doesn't merit the reference "Stealership". Maybe the alignment guys should inherit the title.
By the way in reference to :
"I called two different alignment shops and consulted with two ase master techs before going to dealer. They all assured me it was possible to throw out the alignment by doing the drag link." In this trade we all love to throw our competitors under the bus, in fact we can't resist when the opportunity arises, sometimes it's hard to tell if thats what someone is doing or is just a moron.
Charlie
i agree with you charlie
 
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