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Hey. I have been searching a bit and found some stuff, but i'm going to ask anyway to clarify. My steering bracket has formed a crack near the bolt. The frame has also developed a crack behind the radiator support on the top edge. Same as in this picture from DTR:



Tomorrow I am going to remove the steering box and bracket and weld it up. I am also going to weld the frame back up. Any advice on doing this?, i've never done framework before. Also, I am aware that this is a somewhat temporary solution. What can I do to prevent this from happening in the future? If anyone has dealt with this and has any tips it would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I did not get around to framework today, probably over the weekend. I have been doing more homework and I cannot for the life of me find a definitive process to remove the steering gear. Is there a step by step? I saw one thread but it failed to explain removing the gear along with pitman arm from the drag link. Do I need a puller? or is there a better way to remove the linkage. Also, how do I remove the steering shaft? I just don't want to go in and start hammering on pins without knowledge of the "correct" process. Should I jack the front of the truck? and what about the securing of the steering wheel that I keep reading about. I have to drive out to my buddies shop because I want to use his machine instead of my little 110 Lincoln so I want to get everything in order.
 

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Over the weekend I welded up the frame cracks and bracket. I put everything back together. Now my steering wheel is a bit off-centered no biggie, but I have developed a slight "death wobble." I am trying to think what I could have mucked up. Maybe the joint at the end of the shaft? It had a black seal and wanted to sort of "come-apart" when I had it removed so I suspect that it was the original joint.. Could this cause my wobble or is something else maybe involved from the dismantle. I was thinking about a borgeson shaft..
 

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Shoot I would love to do a crossover but I'm hesitant to lift my truck any, it is pretty high as is with no lift. How much does a reputable lift kit that would allow for crossover cost? What are others running?
 

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Very cool I hope to do xover in the future. I installed the borgeson shaft and it feels tighter for sure, but still have a wobble. So, I have been doing research on the front-end shake and component failures that can cause this shake and I came across this article/diagram that I thought was very informative and answered a lot of my questions about front-end parts. Here it is for anyone else interested.

Diagnosing Death Wobble and Fixing Non-DW Shimmies and Wobbles - Jeep Wrangler Forum
 

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Allright, just got new rubber yesterday, balanced and proper. New draglink the other day, but I still have this darn shimmy. It is not as bad now, my old tires were pretty shot.. the new drag link is non-adjustable and I was told that the adjustable draglink adjusts the castor? Looking in my FSM, it diagnoses a possible cause of front shimmy as a result from improper castor.. What else could this shimmy be? Before I removed the steering gear I did not have shimmy. My other thought was that by tightening up the steering gear at the frame I simply pronounced a "looseness" somewhere else.. Any thoughts would be great it is just a matter of fine tuning!!
 
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This does help thanks for all the input. My one concern is that this started immediately after I tightened up the steering gear mount. Also, there is already a shim under the leaf pack, is this factory?:





Is this appropriate or are you suggesting an even larger angled shim?
Lastly, if I were to add a shim with a larger degree, does this need to be done on a rack or can I do it in my driveway?
 

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I got a camera underneath to view the shimmy. It only occurs between 40-50. Heres a link to youtube:

Front End Shimmy - YouTube

You can see the tie rod shaking with the knuckle.. maybe kingpin? I also notice that when I am going slow in a parking lot turning slightly something clicks occasionally. Also in 4x4, slow turning does not sound good. Maybe related? I thought before it was front axle u-joints which I haven't gotten to yet but now I was thinking kingpin, but what do I know. Just trying to flood all my observation on the issue for an informed diagnosis. Thanks again for the time of those reading through the post, I appreciate.
 

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Anybody? still trying to troubleshot..
 

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Dont know what leaf pack.. how can I tell?
 

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Il take a picture of the packs when I get off work later tonight. Why do you ask?
 

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There is my front leaf pack. I just got new tires and the guy told me there was not much to align... I have a non-adjustable draglink but the steering is pretty straight so thats nice. I am going to take it to an alignment shop tomorrow, maybe he can be more helpful. I spoke to the guy today and he sounded much more knowledgable about the kingpin axles. Which one is the steering stabilizer?
 

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Thanks for all the suggestion. I can't get into the shop today so that will have to wait till next week. I am going to check the kingpins though. I am wondering if the kingpin itself isn't too bad, is it worth it to just replace the spring and bushing, or is it better to do it all in one go? I just have limited time to work on the truck between jobs and it is my dd.


*Does anyone know who the heck has all of the steering gear-frame brackets? I welded mine but I want to get a couple back-ups. I have tried dealerships, dodge-auto-parts-dealer.com, factorychryslerparts.com, and extensive search on several forums to no avail.
 

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I ordered one of those the other day. That brace is just an additional brace for the inside of the frame rail to crossmember. Im talking about the 4x4 mounting bracket that attaches the steering gear to the frame.
 

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I'm just going to use the dodge-connection brace, I already ordered it couple weeks ago anyway and its sitting in my garage. Plus, I like the idea of the full plate backing, and the fact that I won't have to add anymore heat to that part of the frame...

Dodge does not have the steering gear-frame brackets. I have also tried dodge-auto-parts-dealer.com, factorychryslerparts.com, and extensive search on several forums to no avail. Someone on here said that there was quite a few thousand a couple years back, but I cannot locate them. Does anyone know where they are hiding?
 

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Stock Code: 52037876

Alternate Stock Code: 04333525
 

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Crossover Steering

So I mounted the dodgeconnection brace and replaced kingpin bushings and springs. I have concluded that my shimmy is coming from play in the sector shaft in gearbox so I am going to get a borgeson replacement. I want to do a crossover steering setup but I do not know how much lift I have. Someone on here said the springs looked to be aftermarket. I want to get an idea if I can clear a crossover setup before I spend 500 bucks, what do you guys think? And I assume you need to remove the sway bar to install crossover?










 

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Doesnt the pitman arm go above the leaf packs with crossover?
 

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i still have the shimmy. now i think its more to do with my brakes, maybe rotors im guessing. iv got all the parts together for a reverse rotation steer setup like on the earlier rc trucks. my leaf pack is too thick with not enough arch for crossover so rr was the way for me to go without changing my suspension around. i just need a free weekend to install. i will update my progress for anyone interested.
 

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real simple. tie steering wheel to seat via seatbelt to prevent steer wheel from turning and messing spring. knock off draglink at pitman arm with a big hammer and dont be shy. undo hoses. undo bracket to frame bolts. damn iv done it so many times now with all my steering bs. while ur apart ditch the factory steering that creates so many problms and convert to reverse rotation steer. best thing i did to my truck thusfar. pm me if ur interested
 
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