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Just installed a stealth module on my 2018 Ram Cummins g56. Was a little bit of a pain to get the factory harness unplugged but other than that the install was fairly straight forward. First impression of the module is it actually does provide quite a boost in power from what I can tell so far. In third gear starting at 1600rpm to wot it has trouble keeping traction and when hitting 4th it really starts pulling. I was a huge skeptic of this when I first heard about but said what the hell and decided to give it a try. I have an extended warranty and was not willing to let it go to delete and custom tune the truck, as much as I would love to it’s just not feasible. Anyone looking at this module should really give it a try I highly suggest it. Will update in a few days about mpg and I also have a 3 run dyno session booked for Monday to see exactly what it’s giving me for numbers.


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Explain how this doesn’t void your warranty again. Specifically the powertrain.

Glad you like it.
 

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Awesome. Looking forward to seeing the dyno results. Thanks for the new thread.
 
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I’m not saying it 100% won’t void it. However it’s very unlikely because it doesn’t leave a footprint on the computer. I’m not a salesman and don’t exactly know how it works but it’s completely untraceable so I’m told. Unless they physically see it which is unlikely especially how I have it hid in behind the battery there’s really no way of knowing it’s there unless you know what your looking for.


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I’m not saying it 100% won’t void it. However it’s very unlikely because it doesn’t leave a footprint on the computer. I’m not a salesman and don’t exactly know how it works but it’s completely untraceable so I’m told. Unless they physically see it which is unlikely especially how I have it hid in between the battery there’s really no way of knowing it’s there unless you know what your looking for.


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Sorry. My question was partly leading, partly smart as s.

Copy deceit is how you plan to not void your warranty. I was curious if you’d come right out and say it. Recommend in the future to not post your plans on a board that is monitored by Ram (in the form of Dodge cares). I’ll leave it at that man. Not good form on your part.

Beyond my opinion on all that—Something to keep an eye on is the clutch. I found mine would slip towing even with a stock power level tune deleted. It was driveable empty as long as I didn’t hammer down in 6th.
 
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Sorry. My question was partly leading, partly smart as s.



Copy deceit is how you plan to not void your warranty. I was curious if you’d come right out and say it. Recommend in the future to not post your plans on a board that is monitored by Ram (in the form of Dodge cares). I’ll leave it at that man. Not good form on your part.



Beyond my opinion on all that—Something to keep an eye on is the clutch. I found mine would slip towing even with a stock power level tune deleted. It was driveable empty as long as I didn’t hammer down in 6th.


I knew when I made this post that there would be lots of opinions. However that being said I don’t see how RAM monitoring this site can negatively affect me directly as I didn’t post any of my personal info to identify who I am so until then your point is kinda irrelevant. Also my truck doesn’t and will not see the dealer unless I have to take it there because I’m more then capable of doing my own maintenance on this truck and probably more capable then most but not all of the dealer techs these days. If and when it comes to that I may remove it, who knows. I did load up the clutch and didn’t notice any slippage yet but maybe that will change after some more miles.


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I also am running one on my truck and have been quite happy with the results.


‘15 Ram 2500 CC/SWB 4x4 Tradesman 6.7/68RFE, 285/70r17 Firestone Destination MT2s, BD Throttle Sensitivity Booster, Stealth Module, Westin Max winch carrier and bull bar, Feniex Typhoon handheld, Federal Viper lighting.
 

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who says they don't leave a footprint? Stealth? of course they do to sell you the product. The truth is, operating parameters are stored in the computer, the stealth modifies those, and the dealer can see that. while not as blatantly obvious as a flash type tune, it still leaves a footprint. Ram and all the other mfg's are smarter than the average bear, and have built in protections to prevent anyone from modifying the truck in a manner that they won't be able to find. GM computers are locked up tighter than a frogs arse.
 

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Yes your right, if they dig and dig then they may see something in the parameters but I’m referring to the flash count on the pcm. If they hook up to it to reflash or read codes they will not see and increase in flash counter tampering in that respect. All I’m trying to get across is that this is a much more safer way to bump up the power and more potential to not affect warranty like deleting and tuning that are quite obvious a truck has. My truck doesn’t have flares, a huge lift and flashy wheels, loud exhaust or deletes and all these accessories to make it look like the truck is being effed around with so I doubt that they’d even suspect a programmer being hooked up especially if there’s no change in flash count.


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I also am running one on my truck and have been quite happy with the results.


‘15 Ram 2500 CC/SWB 4x4 Tradesman 6.7/68RFE, 285/70r17 Firestone Destination MT2s, BD Throttle Sensitivity Booster, Stealth Module, Westin Max winch carrier and bull bar, Feniex Typhoon handheld, Federal Viper lighting.


How do you like the BD throttle sensitivity booster coupled with the stealth module?


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lets not forget the FACT that the little black antenna on your roof sends info regularly back to RAM. They know its there, they know its your truck, they see how you drive it, they know when it regens, they know how fast, they know when you reset the oil change monitor, they will see your dyno pulls, well you get the idea.
 

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lets not forget the FACT that the little black antenna on your roof sends info regularly back to RAM. They know its there, they know its your truck, they see how you drive it, they know when it regens, they know how fast, they know when you reset the oil change monitor, they will see your dyno pulls, well you get the idea.


Lol thanks for the heads up *smh*


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When my transmission went out on my 14 at 14,700 miles stock the dealership and FCA dug into everything to see if they could pin the cost on me. Not only did they look at flash count they checked all parameters and maximum inputs/outputs to see if i altered anything. They even checked to see if the sensors had been unplugged. They looked for dust to be consistent on everything under the hood near the sensors. They looked for tool marks on nuts and bolts. Ram is not dumb. If the repair is costly and a guy lies to the dealership they will find out. If you want to tune the truck that is fine. Just do not be deceptive. I would not come out and volunteer information but if you alter the truck man up and pay for the damage that may or may not ever happen.
These companies that claim to have undetectable devices are borderline fraudulent. See if they will put their checkbook where their mouth is if the dealer ever denies warranty connected to their product. Until then it is all just a sales pitch.
 
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When my transmission went out on my 14 at 14,700 miles stock the dealership and FCA dug into everything to see if they could pin the cost on me. Not only did they look at flash count they checked all parameters and maximum inputs/outputs to see if i altered anything. They even checked to see if the sensors had been unplugged. They looked for dust to be consistent on everything under the hood near the sensors. They looked for tool marks on nuts and bolts. Ram is not dumb. If the repair is costly and a guy lies to the dealership they will find out. If you want to tune the truck that is fine. Just do not be deceptive. I would not come out and volunteer information but if you alter the truck man up and pay for the damage that may or may not ever happen.
These companies that claim to have undetectable devices are borderline fraudulent. See if they will put their checkbook where their mouth is if the dealer ever denies warranty connected to their product. Until then it is all just a sales pitch.


If I had to pay for anything to be fixed I would and will be doing so. All I’m trying to do is avoid having that happen by going with something that doesn’t require me to delete and tune and “appear” stock. It’s my truck and I’ll do what I damn well please to do. Appreciate all the input but it doesn’t change the fact of why I chose this module and if I get a bunch of flak from the dealer for having it on the truck then I will just go ahead and and do deletes the whole nine but I don’t want to until I’m out of warranty to do so to try an avoid a situation where I’d have to pay out of pocket for warranty work in case the slim chance something grenades prematurely. Think of this as a trial run to see if it actually does that for me. I’m already aware of things people have pointed out and am going to try it for myself.


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I will delete after warranty and wish i could sooner. Please keep your thread updated if you can. I am interested in your findings in the long run. It would be nice to see how this module changes the regen interval and fuel mileage. Will it load the dpf up with soot or keep it cleaner and extend intervals between regens? That sort of thing.
 

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I’d be interested to know about regens as well but not sure how to track them without a monitor device like edge CTS or something along those lines unless you could point me in the right direction. As for DEF consumption it took nearly 4000km for me to drain my first tank of DEF which seems kind of long compared to what I’ve read so far on here. According to Stealth and what I’ve read on other forums etc it is suppose to burn cleaner and have better mpg by eliminating a injector spray on the exhaust stroke which is implemented by EPA to bring emissions down somehow, which I’m not sure how that works exactly. It’s also supposed to shorten injector spray duration for a more clean and full burn resulting in more power and cleaner exhaust from what I gather but again not 100% sure.


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Well the injection of fuel on the exhaust stroke is how this truck regens... so if they’re eliminating that entirely then you may end up with a clogged dpf...

And if that’s the case you may want to invest in a cts so you can actually monitor what’s going on as far as regens and fooling numbers?


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I don’t know enough about it to know exactly how it works and how regens work. Apologies but this is my first diesel, coming previously from a tacoma. Hopefully someone who is more knowledgeable will chime in for you


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