Solid Lifters for 2019+

I’m going to be putting the mopar install tool for sale soon, so if anyone wants it, PM me before I get rid of it.

cumminsturbofreak said:

I’m going to be putting the mopar install tool for sale soon, so if anyone wants it, PM me before I get rid of it.

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You could rent it out too?
There's a lot of people on the TDI forum that will rent their timing belt tools since you need a certain set to properly do a timing belt job.

krashDH said:

You could rent it out too?
There's a lot of people on the TDI forum that will rent their timing belt tools since you need a certain set to properly do a timing belt job.

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I would be definitely be willing, but I see not a lot of people are ready to do a job like this on a 2019+. Majority of 19+ owners aren’t even DIYers. Many are the early buyers that deal with warranty and trade it in a couple years.

In a few years there will be more DIY second hand owners, but I’m not sitting on this expensive tool that long lol.

krashDH said:

You could rent it out too?
There's a lot of people on the TDI forum that will rent their timing belt tools since you need a certain set to properly do a timing belt job.

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I made my own timing tools for the TDI no way i was spending 400$ on a tool for just one of my customers i had about 20 mins in to making it so i save a pile of cash lol! The rental is not a bad idea if there were enough people who would do that much work to their brand new trucks. 1/2 the new owners can barely figure out how to start them let alone fix them 😂

Is there any way the cam lifter tool will work for mushroom flat tappet lifters on the earlier engines?
Can it be modified to work on the earlier engines?

I suspect this tool was quite pricey...

H3LZSN1P3R said:

I made my own timing tools for the TDI

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I should clarify, VW TDI.
99% of people don't have the means to correctly make the tools needed. You don't want to paint and pray on an interference engine. I've seen the carnage.

Not gonna lie though if I was a TDI person (VW) and brought you my vehicle (not that I would since I do my own work) I'd be livid if you were using home made tools on my engine for that job, knowing how precise it needs to be.

Not saying the tools can't be made and it can't be done that way, but most seek out a shop that specializes in those engines for a reason... The right tools and software need to complete the job. At least better have VCDS.

krashDH said:

I should clarify, VW TDI.
99% of people don't have the means to correctly make the tools needed. You don't want to paint and pray on an interference engine. I've seen the carnage.

Not gonna lie though if I was a TDI person (VW) and brought you my vehicle (not that I would since I do my own work) I'd be livid if you were using home made tools on my engine for that job, knowing how precise it needs to be.

Not saying the tools can't be made and it can't be done that way, but most seek out a shop that specializes in those engines for a reason... The right tools and software need to complete the job. At least better have VCDS.

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The VW TDI tool is extremely simple it is so easy to make with the tooling i have. The more intricate tools i either buy or turn the job down if the cost is not worth it.

StealthDiesel said:

Is there any way the cam lifter tool will work for mushroom flat tappet lifters on the earlier engines?
Can it be modified to work on the earlier engines?

I suspect this tool was quite pricey...

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Nop, it’s specially made for the rollers, and you can’t really install the rollers without this tool.

I paid more than $1k for this tool…

This was quite the project and thanks for sharing this. I must be a lucky fellow because so far my '19 is trouble free with the lifters. My engine was built 10/22/19. I have almost 40k miles now and it's as quiet as ever. I did always use good synthetic oil and stratapore filters however and I change it every 10k. I'm hopeful that I won't have trouble but if I do, I'd probably convert to flat tappets and a flat tappet cam and call it a day. It was nice seeing what's inside these new CGI engines. Not a ton of information out there on them.

I kind of threw a couple videos together when I did this.

I also don’t have a tripod or dedicated camera, just my handheld iphone, so I was unable to get much more on film, but it’s a thorough explanation at least.

Great videos... thanks for making and posting those..

Man that is nerve racking brain surgery to get the lifters back into place, holding them in place with magnets while you install the new camshaft.
Looks more nerve racking than using the wooded dowel method on the flat tappet Cummin cam lifters.
I'm surprised you didn't insert an piece of ABS pipe into the cam journals to prevent any lifter from falling down while you had the camshaft out.
You have nerves of steel..

Like I said earlier, if it was me, I would have pulled the pan since I would have dropped several lifters doing that!

Pulling the engine would be no fun but less nerve racking and no need for that special tool.
You would definitely have to pull the pan if you pulled the engine though.

Letting everyone know here, I sold the lifter install tool to Wagler.

They may end up renting it out in the future.

Shock88 said:

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so i got my results…definitely high in copper

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But of little concern at your millage

ahhh ok good to see that, i was going to ask how high is “too high” for my mileage etc…i feel like this is going to be a battle at the dealership, and half of me just wants to do the real fix and put in solid lifters…we’ll see what happens

@cumminsturbofreak what brand of 5W-40 oil were you running?


In theory, roller lifters should be easier on the engine oil than flat tappet lifters.
In theory, hydraulic roller lifters should be quiet and last a long time...

StealthDiesel said:

In theory, hydraulic roller lifters should be quiet and last a long time...

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don't tell gm that lmao

edit - or fca

StealthDiesel said:

@cumminsturbofreak what brand of 5W-40 oil were you running?


In theory, roller lifters should be easier on the engine oil than flat tappet lifters.
In theory, hydraulic roller lifters should be quiet and last a long time...

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No idea. That oil was the stuff that was filled at the dealer right before I bought the truck at 13,000 miles. I was thinking for a moment that maybe they put 5w30, but additives suggest it was a diesel oil.