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hey i just put a smarty on my 02 what kind of hp is it making?? also i have a comp that cam off of a 00 can i hard wire it in , cause the plugs are diff anyone know??
 

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I would imagine you can. I have a 2000 and when I bought my juice for it used they didnt give me the adaptor for the 2000 only the 98-99. I simply connected the 2 wires to the data link connector using the plug as a reference. The wires were labeled on the connectors as A,B,C. Hope this helps.
 

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if you call up edge they'll send you the wiring harness for your year model
 

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smarty is limited to 65hp tops with the stock injectors and can-bus fueling (using the factory hardware). what it does is change the fueling curve so you have more low-end power. stacking a smarty with a fuel only box such as a tst and a decent set of injectors yeilds the best results on the dyno. other than that you can stack the smarty and comp, but you have to use the catcher software without the timing since the comp is a fuel and timing module.
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a 2000 comp wont work on a 01 or 02 ...... different part numbers for a reason
 

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tes it will. it just has different map sensor plugs, and the data link is in a different place. but internally they are the SAME


just call edge and get the adapter. or if you wanna do surgery on it try hard wiring it
 

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so the 00 comp box will work on my 02 i just have to hard wire it in to the map sensor?? also which box is better the comp or the smarty?? what makes more power and smoke?
 

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The smarty is great for low end and with my 75 hp sticks it smokes like a train even with my edge on 0. I like it stacked i might lose a little hp but its nice to have to low end for daily driving and it was nice to get my speedo right again.
 

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IIRC, if you hard wire the Comp into the MAP adapter, I don't believe the wires are the same. You cannot just put them in the order that they are on the plug. I don't remember off of the top of my head what order they are from 98.5-00 to a 01-02 though.
On an 02, 1 wire will have 1.0v coming from the MAP sensor (ignition on--engine not running).
1 wire goes to the ECM
1 wire is the MAP sensor ground.

A Comp and a Smarty are 2 different animals, so to speak.
A Smarty is a Programmer that plugs into the OBD port and reprograms the ECM by changing the timing and fueling parameters and adds @ 65hp.
A Comp hooks to the Data Link connector and the MAP connector and alters the info coming from and going to the ECM and adds @ 120hp.
 

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does anyone know how to wire the como fromn 00 to 02??? the wire harness is 150 i dont have
 

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they want 150 for the adapter for the map sensor. is that what you are saying
 

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tes it will. it just has different map sensor plugs, and the data link is in a different place. but internally they are the SAME


just call edge and get the adapter. or if you wanna do surgery on it try hard wiring it
Call edge and see what they say..... Juice is the only one that can adapt to all year models. Different map voltages on 98-00 and 01-02 that the comp can't compensate for.

Least thats what they told me a while back.
 

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^^^they told me the same thing!
 

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dieseltracks and jmd025 are correct. it will not work due to different voltage current with the map. if this was so i would have had a comp on my truck about 3 months back (remember that Josh). the only wiring harness you can change is on the Juice which is programed to accept variable voltage. just save yourself the trouble and get the correct year model..FYI this is the same thing on the EZ as well. rule of thumb 98.5-00 fits 98.5-00 and 01-02 fits 01-02. unless it is the Juice model.
 

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i stand corrected
 

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i stand corrected
lol nah it's not like that. i bought one off an '02 and learned the hard way. didn't want anyone to make the mistake. however you are right about the wiring harness...you can buy them but only to replace the original or as a fix for the Juice only :thumbsup: you were on the right track snack :yourock:
 

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learn something new every day. i thought the juice was the same as the comp only the juice had the attitude. i would've thought the wiring harness would work for both.
 

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The attitude is what allows it to work with either map voltages IIRC.
 

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so im screwed?? i got it for free, for some welding work, now it wont work.hmmmmm
 

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sell it to Duke (brokedown) LOL :thumbsup:
 
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