[SkoglunC]

So I am picking up a smarty s06 and I want to know if I can keep my edge juice with attitude hooked up, set to 0, and just use it for gauges. I talked to edge and they said to the best of their knowledge it should work just fine. Has anyone done this?

 

[deancb]

I added smarty and unplugged the injector harness and MAP sensor from my Edge. This left me with EGT and the other edge gauges except boost.

This eliminated any concern with the Edge messing with my vehicle parameters.

 

[shesacummin]

yes that will work. just put edge on 0 and use the s06. you can even use the edge tuning with the s06 as long and the s06 is not adding timing

 

[SkoglunC]

yes that will work. just put edge on 0 and use the s06. you can even use the edge tuning with the s06 as long and the s06 is not adding timing

Thank you. I am confused though as to how you can run both of them, even with ought timing from the smarty...won't they try to over power each other?

 

[Killer223]

the s06 reprograms the factory computer, the edge is an add in box.

 

[waywardtravel]

It can somehow still de-fuel. Don't ask me how and EDGE couldn't answer it after they beat it around for a while. I tried it many ways and can't remember exactly what was making my truck fall on it's face.

I first disconnected the injectors alone from the EDGE. It would still de-fuel.
Then map and the same results.
I think Also the RP connector.
It would show it in the data logs when I'd reach x egt or whatever parameter it was watching you could see the instantaneous drop in rail pressure right when the truck fell on it's face. I'm pretty dang confident all my de-fuel settings were set to max AND all de-fuel turned off. This eventually was with only power and the Data plug and obd2 port connected.

I disconnected the small data plug to the ECM and now it doesn't do it. It also won't show RPM and some other stuff on the edge anymore without that data plug.

I still have an open claim with edge and I'd need to find the right logs to see exactly what it was doing. It was doing it though.

 

[SkoglunC]

It can somehow still de-fuel. Don't ask me how and EDGE couldn't answer it after they beat it around for a while. I tried it many ways and can't remember exactly what was making my truck fall on it's face.

I first disconnected the injectors alone from the EDGE. It would still de-fuel.
Then map and the same results.
I think Also the RP connector.
It would show it in the data logs when I'd reach x egt or whatever parameter it was watching you could see the instantaneous drop in rail pressure right when the truck fell on it's face. I'm pretty dang confident all my de-fuel settings were set to max AND all de-fuel turned off. This eventually was with only power and the Data plug and obd2 port connected.

I disconnected the small data plug to the ECM and now it doesn't do it. It also won't show RPM and some other stuff on the edge anymore without that data plug.

I still have an open claim with edge and I'd need to find the right logs to see exactly what it was doing. It was doing it though.

Interesting...what features does your edge show now? Still show egt? And boost? I think I'm going to try it and if it does the same thing I will take it out and just get some gauges...I kinda like the look of old fashioned gauges

 

[waywardtravel]

I haven't checked exactly what I lost but what I used to display on the 8 gauge that is gone is boost and rpm.

 

[SkoglunC]

Well I should have nine next week...I'll let you know if I have the same issue

 

[West_Racing]

additional map sensor

What I am going to note I have done, but for completely different reasons.

You can add a second MAP sensor and pull the low voltage off of the original map sensor.
You can run your edge thru the second map sensor only, and let the original sensor run the factory (or smarty modified) computer.
You will have to make a housing to mount the second sensor in that ties into your intake system.
I am not saying it will work with what you are trying to do, but it works great for my use of being able to tell the juice a different boost than what the engine is seeing.

West

 

[waywardtravel]

I wish I had bought a CTS but they weren't out yet and I needed rail pressure and other gauges as tools.

Anyone today would be smart to buy a Smarty touch hands down for a 03-05.
That plus UDC and a good tuner means the best we can currently get.

Hard for me and because I have edge CTS hot unlock, S06, and UDC. I also can't in my right mind sell my EDGE because it doesn't seem to always work right and not many trucks here if I had it repaired.

I hope it works out in combo better for you than me.

 

[SkoglunC]

Sorry for the ignorance, what is udc?

 

[SkoglunC]

If the combo doesn't work, then I will probably sell my edge and my smarty and buy the touch

 

[waywardtravel]

UDC is Smarty's USER DEFINED CATCHER.
It's custom tuning where a tuner or you can develop truly custom tunes. It's not as good as EFI live yet but it's very close on power and even drivability.

After you have a smarty you can buy the license for the program then send the dongle license to a tuner to remotely tune it or drive to them.

I use Gordon from innovative and Gecovey from coffmans.
It's nice to have a couple to feel and see different tuning strategies. I'd recommend either.
I pushed gecovey for more of a smoke free medium high hp street tune and Gordon for more of a track tune and daily driving.

They are both great.

 

[Fuelie]

It can somehow still de-fuel. Don't ask me how and EDGE couldn't answer it after they beat it around for a while. I tried it many ways and can't remember exactly what was making my truck fall on it's face.

I first disconnected the injectors alone from the EDGE. It would still de-fuel.
Then map and the same results.
I think Also the RP connector.
It would show it in the data logs when I'd reach x egt or whatever parameter it was watching you could see the instantaneous drop in rail pressure right when the truck fell on it's face. I'm pretty dang confident all my de-fuel settings were set to max AND all de-fuel turned off. This eventually was with only power and the Data plug and obd2 port connected.

I disconnected the small data plug to the ECM and now it doesn't do it. It also won't show RPM and some other stuff on the edge anymore without that data plug.

Ok Wayward, I have been going through the exact same thing. My edge defuels under the same conditions. When the truck is at operating temp and towing at high boost, sometimes the defuel even causes the motor to miss along with the rail pressure drop. I just picked up a S-06 and will run that for a couple days to make sure it's the Edge causing it and not a CP3 laying out. Have you figured out what was causing the defueling or how to still get boost on the edge with it disconnected. With all the engine plugs disconnected except the MAP, no boost reading and datalogging is now about worthless.