So how can adding free fuel not be a benefit?Nope, there won't be any payoff. The problem is that by adding hydrogen, you are just adding more (different) fuel. That's never been the problem. The problem is getting a more efficient burn. All that black smoke that everybody seems to love is nothing more than wasted fuel out the back end.
That is SOOOOO TRUE!Nope, there won't be any payoff. The problem is that by adding hydrogen, you are just adding more (different) fuel. That's never been the problem. The problem is getting a more efficient burn. All that black smoke that everybody seems to love is nothing more than wasted fuel out the back end.
I had read about the electrolisis process taking more energy that it creates. That's why I think HHO generators as they're being made for cars now won't work (or won't help for mileage gains) But I do think that they create usable fuel, that if you had a ready made can of it and put it into the engine the same way the HHO generator does, then you would have MPG gains.One incontrovertible fact that makes numbers for the onboard creation of hydrogen challenging is that electrolysis does not create energy, it just converts energy to a different form. It takes as much energy to separate the hydrogen from the water as the hydrogen creates. This is the first law of thermodynamics.
The second law of thermodynamics states that in any energy conversion, such as electrolysis, some energy becomes unusable. Heat lost in the generation of electricity and transmission of electricity, incomplete separation of the hydrogen, etc.
Understanding this is not to poo poo the idea of trying to be innovative, these are just facts that have to be dealt with.
The two big energy wasters in a vehicle are exhaust heat and the kinetic energy stored in the vehicle while it is in motion, an 8,000 lb vehicle in our case.
Here is one interesting use of the heat: Crower six stroke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Are there others?
As for kinetic energy, Hybrid cars convert kinetic energy into electricity to charge the batteries. As a result, a Prius will get better fuel mileage in the city than on the highway.
Wow. Thats all I can say is wow.As I understand it you need X amount of air with X amount of diesel to get your burn. Now if you add/mix Hydrogen in with your air you have less space for the air you need to burn your fuel! So by adding Hydrogen does that not take away space that you normally pack air in to?
No need to be an a$$OK. I guess cold hard facts aren't good enough. 10 to 12 MPG gains is what I said. That was canceled out in your thread is what happened. Thats the first law of stubbornness. You are all set in your ways and cant see a different path. Almost this whole site is like this. Hell half the retards here don't even own a diesel. I'm going back to CompD.