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Has anyone experienced one of these.
A friend of mine was out on the west coast and got stopped by the DOT in his 2018 RAM 3500 pulling a fifth wheel camper.
He had already done a full delete, no Cat or muffler.
When they got through with him he had a hefty fine and ran home to Louisiana to put everything back on.

Just wondering if any of ya'll know of any other times this has happened.
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Did they drag him in to pay the fine before he left the state? If the law there had any teeth the vehicle would have been impounded immediately or at least not allowed to be moved under its own power. If not wad the ticket up and stay out of California if indeed that is where the ticket was issued.
This is the first i have ever heard of this happening.
For me it would be the same as getting a fine for a “high capacity” magazine. Leave the west coast for home in Texas and they wont do anything to help California with the ticket they wrote. I doubt there is extradition for such a thing.
I have heard of things like red light cameras having tickets issued to people from other states where red light cameras are illegal. The state issuing the ticket tosses it out if the car is registered in another state. Basically only enforcing that states laws on its own citizens. Different states have different laws. While it is always wise to obey all laws in a state it is very hard to collect fines from citizens that don’t reside there.
 

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1. that is why i haven't deleted...especially when everything is working properly.

2. that is why I stopped at Utah and Nevada on my last RV trip out west. No West Coast for me :(

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I thought this may have been an isolated incident. But was just checking.
About the first post I used to be on this forum years ago and had to re register mister 5000 posts.
This type of stuff is why I stay away from the LEFT coast.
I personally live in Alaska where there are no inspection or emissions BS. As long as you have head lights and brake lights here you are fine.

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Has anyone experienced one of these.
A friend of mine was out on the west coast and got stopped by the DOT in his 2018 RAM 3500 pulling a fifth wheel camper.
He had already done a full delete, no Cat or muffler.
When they got through with him he had a hefty fine and ran home to Louisiana to put everything back on.

Just wondering if any of ya'll know of any other times this has happened.
Thanks
Stopped by the DOT?

I doubt it, unless he was towing commercially, was he?
 

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Here in NJ, My 2012 3500 DRW is exempt from inspection. But there are always roadside DMV check points. They will check for smoke, they can dip the fuel as we have off road fuel available at most all diesel pumps. the offroad has dye in it. That is definitely a big time fine if they find it. As offroad diesel is not taxed as is gas and diesel. here.
I also need to have flares or reflective triangles. other that visable safty hazards Bad tires etc. that's it 5mins max and on my way.
 

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Louisiana DPS (basically weights and measures police) can and do occasionally pull over RVers but they’ve gotta be doing something exceptionally obviously wrong looking. Normally they leave recreational stuff alone. Heck normally they leave hotshots alone. The tickets aren’t big enough to justify the court costs unless it’s a major overweight issue plus a bunch of other stuff. They’d rather go after the class-8 trucks speeding and weaving lanes because those fines can easily get into 4 digits, and more often than not the company will just pay the fine and move on.

Just gotta watch with the tickets in non-adjoining states. They may not chase you for it, but some states will issue a warrant for the cited driver. That’ll pop up if the driver ever gets run in ADSI or ICJIS (or fills out a 4473) and could show up in a background check or credit report.


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It WAS the DOT and he was not pulling commercially.
I know that the DOT and EPA regulates emissions on all new vehicles but had not heard of it before on a roadside check on non commercial vehicles.
This person is about the most reliable person you can meet. He was so proud of the power and mileage he was getting on his new truck with all of the GOV junk removed until he got stopped. But was quick to put it all back on.
And not paying out of state tickets is never an option these days. Computer systems can get you where ever you are.
I moved to Alaska in 2012. Last year Louisiana tried to garnish my income tax return for not renewing my vehicle registration in LA. It took me months to prove to them that they were and had been registered in AK.
I had to supply affadavits from INS company showing coverage dates and such just to keep my own money. Just hope this is not an example of things to come from the revenue generating GOV agencies.
 

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Exactly where on the "west coast" did this happen?
 

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The only roadside checks I’ve seen in California are for those that are so intelligent they drive drunk, stoned, or both. Never seen any for equipment violators. Have seen the Highway Patrol many times pull em over for overloaded conditions.
 

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Well, my question is simply this; does anyone have “FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE” pulling an RV by DOT?
I personally never met a DOT officer that wanted anything to do with RV’s.........and I met a few when I was still driving commercially. And I did question a few of them about certain things pertaining to RV’s. The answer was always the same.Not unless there is an OBVIOUS safety violation.

It seems to me it is always somebody’s uncles, cousin’s, grandma’s, niece’s buddy that gets pulled over, and the ‘net goes crazy.
 

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The only roadside checks I’ve seen in California are for those that are so intelligent they drive drunk, stoned, or both. Never seen any for equipment violators. Have seen the Highway Patrol many times pull em over for overloaded conditions.
Yep, the only DOT inspections in Ca are run by the California Highway Patrol at commercial enforcement inspection stations. They do not stop or want to see pickups and RV's in those stations. In fact there is a big sign at the entrance, "no pickups".
CHP (the DOT) only inspects vehicles defined in the Code of Federal Regulations over 26,001 lbs GVWR .
CHP officers driving marked pickups have portable scales in the back for random overweight and mechanical/driver log book violations.
 

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Emission requirements are not a state by state case. Those laws are federal. It's up to the state to decide if they want to enforce and/inspect any vehicles.

That said, what was the "hefty fine" and what were the exact violations cited on the ticket? I've been pulled over in a deleted truck too. Drove off with nothing more than a speeding ticket. I would like to see actual documents prior to me buying into this.
 

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Yep, the only DOT inspections in Ca are run by the California Highway Patrol at commercial enforcement inspection stations. They do not stop or want to see pickups and RV's in those stations. In fact there is a big sign at the entrance, "no pickups".
CHP (the DOT) only inspects vehicles defined in the Code of Federal Regulations over 26,001 lbs GVWR .
Well, except for when they set up temporary check points along the road, often concentrating on certain types of vehicles, such as buses.

Also, there's no minimum GVWR for having to stop at scales. "No pickups" means that even a 1500 with a flatbed may have to pull in, as it's no longer a pickup.
 

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It WAS the DOT and he was not pulling commercially.
I know that the DOT and EPA regulates emissions on all new vehicles but had not heard of it before on a roadside check on non commercial vehicles.
This person is about the most reliable person you can meet. He was so proud of the power and mileage he was getting on his new truck with all of the GOV junk removed until he got stopped. But was quick to put it all back on.
And not paying out of state tickets is never an option these days. Computer systems can get you where ever you are.
I moved to Alaska in 2012. Last year Louisiana tried to garnish my income tax return for not renewing my vehicle registration in LA. It took me months to prove to them that they were and had been registered in AK.
I had to supply affadavits from INS company showing coverage dates and such just to keep my own money. Just hope this is not an example of things to come from the revenue generating GOV agencies.
Hello fellow Alaskan.

Did you ever see his truck? I would expect they aren't just randomly pulling over RVs looking for emissions equipment. I would guess he was making a lot of smoke and thus drew attention, especially if he was in California where they at least used to regularly do smoke opacity checks. I've worried that even in Alaska people regularly "rolling coal" will eventually result in more regulation and attention to diesel vehicles.
 

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Up here the scales say any vehicle over 4500kg. That being said if your under pulling a trailer or a load unsafe your liable just like the rest.

Your friend took a risk when he removed the equipment. Just like speeding. Broke a law and can’t be made he got caught. Not saying I wouldn’t be pissed but that’s life.

I watch class 8 trucks that are a disgusting mess reive everywhere and passed scales. While the clean one gets a ticket. It’s the way it is. If/when I delete my truck hopefully I won’t be fined.
 

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I thought this may have been an isolated incident. But was just checking.
About the first post I used to be on this forum years ago and had to re register mister 5000 posts.
This type of stuff is why I stay away from the LEFT coast.
I personally live in Alaska where there are no inspection or emissions BS. As long as you have head lights and brake lights here you are fine.

Thanks for the replies.

John
Hey John don't get your panties in a wad. You come on here with what looks like a B.S. story with nothing to back yourself up with. If your story is true it would be the first and you're going to need more proof than just a story.

If you were a member years ago what was your username? When did you join and when did you leave? IF you were a member years ago you know how things go on the internet, why would you rejoin knowing this without proof?

Until you check out I'm calling B.S. troll. If you check out legit, then I'll apologize.
 

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Well, except for when they set up temporary check points along the road, often concentrating on certain types of vehicles, such as buses.

Also, there's no minimum GVWR for having to stop at scales. "No pickups" means that even a 1500 with a flatbed may have to pull in, as it's no longer a pickup.
I spent two weeks training at a CHP commercial enforcement station, I can assure you no one under the regulated GVWR of 26,001lbs pulled into the station for a weigh or an inspection. Uhaul and rental trucks were also not required to stop.
 
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