[commtrd]

With all the rain here lately, I noticed a lot of water in the rear floorboard and in the recess under my JL Audio amp. Which is not good. I felt around the rear window, don't feel any moisture coming in there. Wondering if there are some breather things in the rear cab wall that could be leaking? I really need to remove the seat back to be able to look back there better and hopefully find the leak. It has never leaked before and I must find the leak and fix it.

Any one else seen this? And how does that seat back (or the whole back seat) come out? Thanks for any advice/help with this.

 

[Flyingfinn73]

When you lift up the front of the bottom, the back portion should also move upward. At some point you can pivot the back of seat forward when it lifts high enough to clear the loops that the hooks latch into. Then the base can be unbolted if you want the whole works out. IIRC there was 8 bolts fastening the base in


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[battlegraduate09]

just noticed this on mine last week, subbed to see what you find

 

[commtrd]

I will look at pulling the back of the seat forward while lifting the bottom part up. Did not think to try that, I was looking for a latch handle or similar to release the back part. Thanks for the tip. When it quits raining (again) I will check it out. And post up anything I find.

 

[OneBadDodge]

If you live in the rust belt, easiest way I've found to pull the bottom seat cushion is to get a big breaker bar and a 4' cheater on it. It's a bit of a b*tch

 

[commtrd]

Well I tried to pull the back cushion away while lifting up on the bottom cushion and that didn't work. So it looks like I am going to have toget a big breaker bar and socket to pull the bolts out of the bottom brackets. Looks like the upper and lower parts are part of an assembly far as I can tell. It appears that the back seat cushion is on some kind of swivel brackets attached to the back wall of the cab and not sure how to remove it. There are two ventilation covers, one on each side that I can see. Not sure if they are leaking since I cannot get to them. Still raining so I will have to deal with it when this rain quits.

 

[Flyingfinn73]

I was thinking about this. I pulled my rear seat out when I swapped a full set of 2011 seats in for my 07 ones. I think you may be right. Take out the 4 bolts that hold the base, and then when you lift the bottom up, you’ll be able to unhook the back. It’s only held to the rear wall with 2 or 3 hooks that slide down into some loops, I believe they’re called fireman loops or something. They don’t line up exactly the same on the 11 seats, so now when I lift my base, the rear raises and will come out of those hooks and back will fold down if I don’t hold it up until I put base back flat. At any rate, yes, if you take the bolts loose for the base, it’ll all lift right out and you’ll understand what I’m talking about


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[vreihen]

While you have the seats out, turn the loops on the rear cab wall upside down. This will provide the clearance necessary so that you just need to flip the seat base partially up in the future to clear the hook and let the back fold down.

There's videos on YouTube of the 4th gen guys making blocks of wood as spacers under their seat bench bolts to accomplish the same thing, because their hooks cannot be flipped like the 3rd gen ones.....

 

[TWR]

Check the third brake light gasket when they leak water goes into the carpet on the floor and storage box under the seat. Also sometimes the gps antenna leaks but you will see the headliner wet.

 

[commtrd]

Check the third brake light gasket when they leak water goes into the carpet on the floor and storage box under the seat. Also sometimes the gps antenna leaks but you will see the headliner wet.

Hmmm OK I will look into that tomorrow. May just go by the dealer parts to get another gasket and change it out. It looked like the water may have been coming in lower from the limited access I have right now. Unfortunately all the padding on the rear floor deck is wet. Not seeing any water leak on the headliner at all. If the third brake light gasket leaks, how does the water get down to the floor without compromising the headliner too?

Starting to see evidence of some mold/mildew. That sucks. I am so anal about keeping the truck in good condition and clean.

Thanks for the info.

 

[TWR]

Hi when you take the light out you will see tin channels inside they run over to the sides then down= wet carpet. Its a very common on all dam dodge trucks or aleast the last 6 i have owned. I don't use a dodge gasket, I strip chauking that stays soft and flexable I always had good luck using it. Thats aleast 2 of us that are anal, my wife can't believe the stuff i do sometimes.

 

[commtrd]

Hi when you take the light out you will see tin channels inside they run over to the sides then down= wet carpet. Its a very common on all dam dodge trucks or aleast the last 6 i have owned. I don't use a dodge gasket, I strip chauking that stays soft and flexable I always had good luck using it.

I will fix that ASAP. Thanks man much appreciated!!

 

[TWR]

No problem come back and let us know if that was the fix!

 

[BR3500]

Pulling the rear seat: remove load floors, lift up lower rear seat cushion assemblies, remove seat base bolts from floor, lift up each seat assembly to free seat back from the loops.

As suggested, check the 3rd brake light. Mine was leaking and so was the rear slider. I tossed my rear slider and went with a fixed rear glass and used auto window butyl to seal the 3rd brake light gasket. So far so good, no leaks. To check for the leak source, once you have the rear seat out, have a helper pour water over the 3rd brake light and along the top of the rear window and check for interior leaks. There was also a TSB for rear window leaks. Apparently when assembling the vehicle Dodge didn't use enough sealant to properly seal the rear window frame to the body channels. My slider leaks were sourced from the slider window gaskets, not the frame. Also, there are tiny weep holes in the window base channel that can clog up and prevent the channel from properly draining. Your's may be clogged?

 

[commtrd]

Where are those weep holes located? I will check on this also. Where to get that auto window butyl? First thing I will pull that light out and seal it up. I have a JL Audio 12" sub in a custom enclosure in the well on the passenger side and the amp / computer on the right side. I do not want the amp and wiring to get wet plus I am sure the sub enclosure has moisture under it that will need to be dried up. PITA Oh well, that is what I get for driving a dodge. At least it has a cummins in it.

 

[theory29zane]

So i had a similar issue as with eveyone else talking about the 3rd brake light and resealed it a few times but never fixed the issue. Mine ended up being the body seam sealer on the outside of the truck just below the lower right rear window corner. I seen it was cracked and sure enough after some clear silicone on the seam and probem with wet carpet went away so check there as well.

 

[BR3500]

Where are those weep holes located? I will check on this also. Where to get that auto window butyl? First thing I will pull that light out and seal it up. I have a JL Audio 12" sub in a custom enclosure in the well on the passenger side and the amp / computer on the right side. I do not want the amp and wiring to get wet plus I am sure the sub enclosure has moisture under it that will need to be dried up. PITA Oh well, that is what I get for driving a dodge. At least it has a cummins in it.

My window installer gave me a 2 foot length to use to seal the brake light gasket. You can probably find it on Amazon or may be a well stocked/local auto parts store - not sure if any of the big chain stores would have it. I recall from the TSB, Dodge called out the use of a flowable clear silicone to seal the frame. This stuff can be found at the big chain auto parts stores or your local FCA dealer -- if you're in a "grab your ankles mood", lol.... The weep holes are located on either side of the slider base frame, about 4 or 5 inches in board from where the window frame curves upward. The black plastic slider channels need to be lifted up. The holes are really small, one on each side of the slider. Like others theorize, I can't see how they can drain any significant amount of water given their tiny size. For me, I gave up on the sliders...never used it and with the fixed panel/privacy glass it cleans up the rear of the cab nicely. One single, flat, dark black surface

 

[commtrd]

OK that's why I couldn't find the holes. A little slow on the up-take but I get there eventually... I already have the flat one-piece glass. Good tip on that body seam. I am going to go ahead and seal those things up too. Awesome tips and help on this. Thanks from the bottom of my pea-pickin' heart...