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Question for those with arson jr or II bag of parts
Will they support a set of 80 hp injectors. Would like to get fully modified cp3 but thats just not in the cards yet.
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If you are stacking boxes with injectors you will drain the rail. Several of the folks that i've talked to that got the Arson Jr. soon upgraded to a stage 2. You can start with an Arson jr. though and send your CP3 in later and it won't be as expensive as a full stage 2 since the Arson jr. is part of the stage 2 upgrade. II is like 30 minutes from me and I wanted their buisness, they just want too much $$$ compared to Wicked for the same thing.
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not even close to the same thing II mods all three parts fir the 6.7 like they do on the dmax pumps and 5.9. Wickid only does 2 parts thus arson jr rather then just the arson kit, last I knew II wont make the the bag of parts anymore, I had them make me might kit along time ago before they were selling them. I really dont think you would have much problem at all I have never seen my rail drop under 25k at wot with stock injectors so you wouldnt drop much more then that if any.
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ok thanks guys
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with the set up i have now i am running out of fuel with the MP8 on at all. i am installing the Arson Jr to see how much that helps and will report back. right now i will drop about 8k on the rail pressure at WOT as soon as i turn on the 8, and on the dyno i only gained 17hp with the 8 on 100%.
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"Foot in mouth" I was confused. II included the new gear pump with their bag-o-parts. You are right, II quit making the bago-o-parts for the 6.7. As far as the stage 2 upgrade is concerned, the Wicked is less than half the price of the II and the upgraded flow is pretty close. Wicked 25% more flow and II 33%.
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So Industrial Injection offers two kits for our CP3's -
One that flows 33% and the other flows 45%. Is the 33% the Stage II and the 45% the Stage III?
I bought the one that says, "modified CP3" on their website that flows 33% - but was under the impression that was their stage 1.
One that flows 33% and the other flows 45%. Is the 33% the Stage II and the 45% the Stage III?
I bought the one that says, "modified CP3" on their website that flows 33% - but was under the impression that was their stage 1.
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If I remember correctly, wasn't the bag of parts good for 15% more fuel?
So the Stage I = 33%
Stage 2 = 45%
Stage 3 = 85%
So the Stage I = 33%
Stage 2 = 45%
Stage 3 = 85%
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I am almost positive this is how it goes
stage 1 and bag of parts= 15% more then stock
stage 2 = 30% more then stock
stage 3 = 85% more then stock
grand po bah= 230% more then stock
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Their flow ratings are inflated, especially since their is no reference to actual flow numbers. There are areas of CP3 modification, that substantially increase output that others do not touch.
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ok, installed the Arson Jr yesterday, it bucked and surged for about 30miles but has been running smooth sinse. sure rolls coal now, WOT with the MP8 @ about 75% there is no drop in rail pressure, haven't tried at 100 yet. i will get on a dyno once my traction bars are finished and let you all know what the combo is getting now, i havn't been on a dyno for a while, have installed the xrt, Arson and water/meth sinse then.:drool2:
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did you install the kit with the cp3 still on the truck?
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yep cp3 stays on the truck
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nice, I figured it'd be ok as long as I catch the check ball when taking off the HP fitting. My arson kit comes this week. :headbang:
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