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Sooo. To make a long story short. The stealership just aligned my truck and says I need a new oil pan. 7.3 hours of labor. Can this be? Heck i did not even know these rotted out.
 

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rotten oil pan huh? i'd say they're doing the typical stealership thing. maybe a shot gasket, i'd assume theres a gasket there, and 7.3 hours? seems like a lot of coffee breaks in there. I think a guy could do it himself in less time than that.
 

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Ask them if they can give you a 149.00 oil flush while they are at it...:$::lol3:
 

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a rotted out oil pan in 5 or 6 years on an 03...hmmmm
 

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Had that happen to the Cat in my motorhome at 8 years old. Front section of the sump rotted out for a major oil leak. Fortunately, no crossmembers in the way so it was just drop the exhaust and replace. Folks in the rv park weren't too happy with me though.

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is your truck 2wd? i've looked at mine and you have to drop the crossmember for the front suspension.

4wd's i dont think have the crossmember, and can be done pretty easily.
 

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you don't bathe your truck in salt water do ya?! most likely its the gasket, maybe it got smashed or dented offroading somehow?
 

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wow, never heard of a rotted out oil pan, inspect it yourself, take picture and post it. im sure other members here would really like to see it too
 

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How incompetent are their mechanics? If your puke bottle is overfull it will dribble oil down and make it look like the oil pan is bad.

And it is a NIGHTMARE to get the oil pan off the 4x4. You have to raise the engine. I don't know why they used studs (only a couple of them, too) but since they did, you really have to lift it up quite a bit.

I would inspect the pan myself, carefully retorque the pan bolts, empty the puke bottle and forget it. If it's covered with oil like most cummins pans are (from not emptying the puke bottle or not having one) the oil will prevent the thing from rotting out no matter what nasty rock salt and ocean water you flog through.
 

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Salesrep, you out there?

Never heard of a pan going bad due to rust. Ever.
 

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How incompetent are their mechanics? If your puke bottle is overfull it will dribble oil down and make it look like the oil pan is bad.

And it is a NIGHTMARE to get the oil pan off the 4x4. You have to raise the engine. I don't know why they used studs (only a couple of them, too) but since they did, you really have to lift it up quite a bit.

I would inspect the pan myself, carefully retorque the pan bolts, empty the puke bottle and forget it. If it's covered with oil like most cummins pans are (from not emptying the puke bottle or not having one) the oil will prevent the thing from rotting out no matter what nasty rock salt and ocean water you flog through.
You are 100% right. The oil itself will not allow it to rot out. And yes ... It is a PITA to drop the oil pans on these trucks ... but not quite 7 hours worth.

Take a picture ... I'd like to see it
 

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totalloser whats this puke bottle look like? My pan has always been covered in oil and thought it could be the gasket. It never leaks enough to drip on my garage floor tho. Maybe that could be my problem.
 

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My thread thingy must not have worked.
Anyway johndeeretech from this forum is going to replace my lp with an airdog100 wed eve. YEA........... I am going to have him look at it. Yes I am suspicious. The valve cover gasket is leaking and it may be that simple. We'll see. I have thought about welding or brazing if indeed it is weak, but not to weak. With an internet search these oil pan rotting situations, albeit rare, do occur. Hope its not me. $350 for the pan plus the labor.....ouch.
 

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Just got back from the carwash. The right 1/4th of the oil pan is rusting out.:CRY: Enough for a dribble or 7 a night, bout a silver dollars worth or so. I am NO MECHANIC, hell barely know what a cross member or a ball joint is, but I know oxidation when I see it. I have to believe that there is a cheaper, effective way to solve this versus a $350 pan and 4-8 hours of labor. What about a patch mesh thing bobby from another industry? or hoist it up have a pro cut the bottom out and weld in a piece to fit?
Thoughts? suggestions? banter...etc......:beer
 

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Yeh, I'd weld a plate over it or try a fiberglass patch of some kind.
 

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Its not bad to get the pan out. I would look at calling Cummins for the pan instead of the dealer. Should be about half the cost. I would replace it though. If its rusted out enough to leak a little, then its weak enough a piece of road debris can puncture it and then you are really in a bind!

You can do it on the ground, but I have not done that yet. We put the truck up on the lift, take the motor mounts loose, and lift the motor up and out of the motor mount slots. The pan comes right out. You do have to pull the oil pump pick up tube, but thats only 4 8mm bolts.

I can only see 8 hours if the guy has never done one and has no air tools. Last oil pan gasket I did was under 4 and that included cleaning up his pan.
 
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