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i have herd from about ten people that some of the 1st gens dod not have turbos, i have never seen one without a turbo.

are they right

thanks
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i dont think they built non-turbo cummins deisal's.. but if they did they must be slow..
i have herd from about ten people that some of the 1st gens dod not have turbos, i have never seen one without a turbo.

are they right

thanks
The first years up until 1991.5 didnt have intercoolers. Maybe they were mistaken?
There are plenty of 6b's around with no turbo, but every one that came in a dodge truck had one. I have seen 6b's with no turbo on equipment and they had 100 hp.
Every since 89 when Dodge put the cummins in their trucks they were CUMMINS TURBO DIESELS but like previously stated the first ones were non intercooled.
ok thanks, i kinda thaught they were wrong,
ok thanks, i kinda thaught they were wrong,
Actually, they are correct.



The Google search is a powerful thing. ;)

wikipedia.org said:
The 1978 saw also the introduction of the first Diesel powered Dodge pickup truck. Available as an economy choice in the light duty trucks was Mitsubishi 6dr50A 4.0-liter inline 6-cylinder naturally aspirating diesel, rated at 105 hp (78 kW) at 3500 rpm, and ~230 Nm (~169 lb·ft) @ 2200 rpm. The diesel used standard Dodge manual and automatic transmissions via specially made adapter plate which had the LA V8 bolt pattern. This rare factory option, VIN code H, was the result of fuel crisis and the collaboration of Chrysler and Mitsubishi. The engine, while being trustworthy and having far better economy than any other engine in the Dodge lineup at the time, suffered from its low power output and was considered to be underpowered by American standards, even though it was previously used in the Japanese 3.5-ton cab-over Mitsubishi T44 Jupiter Truck and in industrial applications. Because of the low sales it was phased out quickly and as a result it became practically a single year specialty.
As is found here ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_D_Series
:banging: i feel like an idiot, oh well you learn something new evry day
oh well you learn something new evry day
That's the important part. :thumbsup:
that's a naturally aspirated mitsubishi motor, not a cummins like the PO asked about.
Actually, they are correct.
No they're not.

"1st Gen" refers to "First Generation Ram". The Ram line started in 1981 and ended in 1993. The earlier Diesels were in Dodges, but not in Rams. If you want to get nit-picky and start talking about the first Diesels in Dodges, then you have to go way back and look at some very early medium-duty trucks the Dodge Brothers manufactured.
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i have herd from about ten people that some of the 1st gens dod not have turbos, i have never seen one without a turbo.
@ jimbo486

Where does he say Cummins?


@ Begle1

Wiki said:
The D Series was a line of pickup trucks sold by the Dodge division of American automaker Chrysler from 1961 to 1980. After 1980, the trucks were renamed as the Dodge Ram and the same basic design was retained until the 1994 introduction of a completely redesigned Ram. The D Series shared its AD platform with the Dodge Ramcharger/Plymouth Trailduster twins.
And if you would, check through this and point me to where exactly Dodge specified "1st Gen", 2nd Gen, etc ~ http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/ram-history.html
"1st Gen" refers to "First Generation Ram". The Ram line started in 1981 and ended in 1993. The earlier Diesels were in Dodges, but not in Rams. If you want to get nit-picky and start talking about the first Diesels in Dodges, then you have to go way back and look at some very early medium-duty trucks the Dodge Brothers manufactured.
Yep thats exactly why i said since 89'. I remembered my dad telling me about Dodge running that Mitsu-pile in their trucks for a bit.
No they're not.

"1st Gen" refers to "First Generation Ram". The Ram line started in 1981 and ended in 1993. The earlier Diesels were in Dodges, but not in Rams. If you want to get nit-picky and start talking about the first Diesels in Dodges, then you have to go way back and look at some very early medium-duty trucks the Dodge Brothers manufactured.
Beagle is correct,and the first gen's are not the first time Dodge used a Cummins they used them well into the 70's in med-duty trucks! Dodge also designed and built thier own diesel.
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@BC

The D Series was a line of pickup trucks sold by the Dodge division of American automaker Chrysler from 1961 to 1980. After 1980, the trucks were renamed as the Dodge Ram and the same basic design was retained until the 1994 introduction of a completely redesigned Ram. The D Series shared its AD platform with the Dodge Ramcharger/Plymouth Trailduster twins.
There was never a Dodge Ram with a naturally aspirated Diesel. The question wasn't asking about "D-series" trucks, it was specifically asking about Dodge Rams.
Folks, if you drive a 2-wheel drive a so-called "1st Gen" pick-up, you drive a "D" series pick-up. Check your FSM. ;)

Remember? D=2WD, W=4WD. :)
Only before 1981 the trucks did not say "RAM" anywhere on them, because they were not marketed as "RAMs". If you want to get nit-picky about the stupid n/a Mitsubishi failure of a Diesel, of which I'm sure about 10 of remain on the road today, then I get to be nit-picky about Dodge's own nomenclature.

"First Gen" obviously doesn't refer to "First Gen Dodge Truck" does it? Or did they have the "Negative 12th Gen" back in the 20's?
LOL! What ever folks. :)

And if you would, check through this and point me to where exactly Dodge specified "1st Gen", "2nd Gen", etc ~ Ram / Dodge Pickup History
I win the quibbling argument!

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Y'all have a good night. ;)
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