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Does anyone know when we will really see it? I really want a cummins and only tow 3000 pounds. Would like to get 19 city and 25 hyw which is what I heard they will get. Does anyone have real info on this??:popcorn:
 

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I've heard it mentioned, but no further details... don't think they've unveiled it yet.
 
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Last I heard it was a 4 Cylinder Turbo. But I ddin't hear it was a Cummins. It may be that Italian diesel they stuffed into the Jeep Liberty for a short time. It was discontinued because the Soccer Moms didn't like the smell and would rather get 20 MPG vs. 35. Brats
 

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I wouldn't wait on that. I'd get an older Cummins such as a 12v. They get great fuel mileage. And come with that great 5.9 power too. :thumbsup
 

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If they make a half ton pickup with 4cyl cummins ill be on the waiting list to get one.
 

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I heard a smaller V8 Cummins for the half tons.
 

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there was a write up in diesel power that stated they were going to use a V6 and a V8 cummins with a common rail set up and was expected to release in late 09'. i'll see if i can find that issue when i get home. you know how these big companies are they are proablly going to scam us and put something else in there. kind of like GMC with the cat.
 

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I don't think it's a scam, just a way to keep selling trucks because of fuel prices.
 

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i did see pics of the engine in the mag. i hope it is true because my wife said she might like one. i'll keep my fingers crossed.
 

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With current gas prices, I'm thinking that the auto companies are chopping-blocking anything that doesn't make 35 MPG... I wouldn't be waiting for a new Diesel anything with Diesel being over $5.00 a gallon.
 

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Yeah its the jan 08 issuse. I nice that they are going to put diesels in there 1/2 and 1/4 tons but I dont like the fact that they are v engines I like inline engine and I think that I am going to stick with my dodge 1500 in my sig.
 

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With current gas prices, I'm thinking that the auto companies are chopping-blocking anything that doesn't make 35 MPG... I wouldn't be waiting for a new Diesel anything with Diesel being over $5.00 a gallon.
Considering the mileage difference as well as cost between the two, I can always see a diesel in the driveway. For a truck of equal capabilities, it would be around 12mpg overall... compared to the 21 that I am getting now(hand calculated). For me to sway diesel would have to be over twice the cost per gallon before a gas engine that has equal power will ever be in my truck. Not to mention the Jetta that is putting me in the low 50s mpg... compare that to the other gas engines.

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With current gas prices, I'm thinking that the auto companies are chopping-blocking anything that doesn't make 35 MPG... I wouldn't be waiting for a new Diesel anything with Diesel being over $5.00 a gallon.
Depends on where you are... here next to Houston we're just now beginning to see $4.50.
 

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Enough people are swapping the little 4cyl 3.9 into their small trucks, it would be cool to see some production vehicles come with it!

The 4bt3.9 is a couple hundred pounds less than a 6bt and the Tier3 4bt3.9 is available from the factory with 125hp/373ftlb on the industrial engines, like the 6bt, an automotive version would make a little more power and spin a little higher.
 

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Considering the mileage difference as well as cost between the two, I can always see a diesel in the driveway. For a truck of equal capabilities, it would be around 12mpg overall... compared to the 21 that I am getting now(hand calculated). For me to sway diesel would have to be over twice the cost per gallon before a gas engine that has equal power will ever be in my truck. Not to mention the Jetta that is putting me in the low 50s mpg... compare that to the other gas engines.

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I don't think that most people are lucid enough to do the math though. And then you add the however many thousands that they are going to charge for the Diesel option... I don't see very many being sold.
 

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Enough people are swapping the little 4cyl 3.9 into their small trucks, it would be cool to see some production vehicles come with it!
I agree. My 3.9 has plenty fo power for what I tow and has no problem keeping up with traffic and I can pull as high as 33mpg out of it.
 
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