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I saw a 3G CTD Ram for the second time around my house, and this time I need to vent! This truck has a 4-6" lift and it's still running on stock wheels and tires!!! :thud: WHY?!?! Sorry to those of you running a set up like this, so now's your chance to explain... Let me have it, I'm opening the door here. To me, lifting your truck, without increasing tire size is like ricer kids who buy body kits, and don't paint them before putting them on the car. Without tires your lift offers no physical advantage, all you have done is decrease your trucks handling, and safety by raising your center of gravity. Absolutely zero ground clearance is gained...
Please bring on comments from both sides of the fence here... am I the only one who feels this way? Am I missing something?
Sorry for the long post, but I feel better now that I've vented.

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Maybe he was still waiting for wheels/tires. I agree with you, no point to a lift if you don't increase tire size.
 

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:agree2: but what makes me more pissed is seeing these cars around town lifted higher than my trail rig and rolling on 26" wheels!!
 

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only reason i see for this right now is simple.......pain at the pump. the smaller tires will yield better fuel mileage overall.
 

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only reason i see for this right now is simple.......pain at the pump. the smaller tires will yield better fuel mileage overall.
I agree in city driving. But out on the open road its like having taller gears (to a certin point). Maby after the lift they didnt have the money to get wheels & tires. Just a thought.
 

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Well I see most of these reasons (excepting fuel economy, taller tires are like taller gears, it's the width that lowers MPG) but if cost were an excuse, wouldn't it be hypocritical to bash the ricer kid with the un-painted body kit, or if he has mis-matched wheels at the track? I'm not trying to claim holier than thow, but my beef is with people who "half do" mods, any mod on any vehicle. If your going to mod something, regardless of if it's to my taste or not, it's your vehicle. Do it with pride and clear direction, I'll apprciate it. That's kinda why I started this rant... I feel lifting without wheels and tires is a half done project. And trust me, I understand what it's like to not have the money, I live in Michgan,I don't have near the disposable income I had years ago, so now, I just wait....
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both height and width lower mpg's, the taller the tire the more power needed to turn it, the wider the tire, the more rolling resistance because of friction
 

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both height and width lower mpg's, the taller the tire the more power needed to turn it, the wider the tire, the more rolling resistance because of friction
In the city & stop and go traffic yes this is true. But on the HWY a taller tire can help milage (taller tire with in reason)Its like having taller gears witch help milage on the HWY. I am running 3.55s & 37" tires and on the HWY crusing @ 75-80 I get 19.5-21+ MPG.
 

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I can see where ur comin from, but cost wise there's really no comparison to the ricer with an unpainted body kit. I think their problem is they just can't paint...

I'm going to have to go along with the fact that they probably just spent a grand or so on a lift and didn't have another 1000-1500 on big tires/wheels. I'm an impulse buyer with a credit card...lol, so when I lift my truck I'll go all out and get the tires too, it's a sickness I have. Money burns a hole in my pants pocket, so why not go buy new pants?
 

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If you cant afford to buy new wheels and tires you probably shouldn't be buying a lift until you can do so. Likewise, if you can't afford to paind your body kit (or fiberglass fenders for those who like to think they have a prerunner) then you probably shouldn't be buying them
 

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Well obviously it's a split crowd on this one. I feel better knowing it wasn't just me though :)
It's nice that this forum can have civil (mostly, most of the time) conversations.
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Luckily mine was just a leveling kit, but I had to order my tires, and it took about 3 weeks to get them in. I put the leveling kit on the same day I ordered the tires. So I rolled 3 weeks leveled on stock tires. To me it looked horrible and I couldnt wait until I got my tires. I'm not siding with them, just giving another possible reason.
 

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Just for sake of clairity, seems many have missed my first note. I have seen this same truck in question twice. That was not twice in the same week. Probably a span of 4-6 weeks... Unless his tires are on a slow boat from China, or they are coming via pony express... I'd say simply waiting is out of the question...
 

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I can see where ur comin from, but cost wise there's really no comparison to the ricer with an unpainted body kit. I think their problem is they just can't paint...

I'm going to have to go along with the fact that they probably just spent a grand or so on a lift and didn't have another 1000-1500 on big tires/wheels. I'm an impulse buyer with a credit card...lol, so when I lift my truck I'll go all out and get the tires too, it's a sickness I have. Money burns a hole in my pants pocket, so why not go buy new pants?
1k?

most kits that size installed are 2k -2.5k and then tires in the size of 35-37s will run another 1300-1500 dollars

my guess is hes just earing back up some money
 

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It costs a lot of money to do everything at once. I think your "buddy" probably ran into a good deal on the lift kit and in agreement with a few others that posted, just waiting for the wheel/tire package to come in. I priced my KORE Recon and ProComp wheels with tires at around 3.6k, which would take me a few months to get together.
 

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why does it bother you? thats just silly.
Exactly.

I couldn't care less what someone thinks about my truck.

If you think its cool to have 20" pimp rims and mud tires on your truck (possibly the single most gay thing you could do to it) knock yourself out.

Doesn't mean everyone else has to like it.

There are some guys here that worry way too much about what other people think.
 

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Mine rolled around for 2 days on stock wheels/tires as i was waiting to get in for an alignment and new wheels/tires to come in....
 
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