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Moved my front axle forward 3.5"

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Dodge puts the front wheel too close to the cab for me...
If you want to run larger tires, you have to lift too high which also raises the CG...

Soooo, I moved the front bumper forward to open up the wheel well, added a 3.5 in lift AND MOVED the front axle forward 3.5 in to center the wheel in the wheel well.

I also added 5500 flares and then changed the front rims to the std 2500 (non dually rims)

So now my flares in the front are similar in design to my rear dually fenders, witha wider stance, and it all worked out real nice. No problems with clearance now.

Here's a link if you want to full how to in detail...
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/6...scussion/206231-forced-order-smarty-pipe.html

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Now get the extensions for the front flares that go on the bumper and itll look alot better than the abrupt ending...and maybe paint the flares? Looks pretty good though. Got any side shots?

Although I do gotta say, the front wheels absolutely ruin it, and the tires are too small
 

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I haven't ordered rims/larger tires... I think u guys missed the whole point of the thread... opening up the wheel well and moving the axle to be centered in it...

I tried the extensions, didn't like them... made it look like a snow plow... but they do need to be painted I agree.
 

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I haven't ordered rims/larger tires... I think u guys missed the whole point of the thread... opening up the wheel well and moving the axle to be centered in it...
No I got the point of the thread. Thats why I asked for side pics, to see how much its been moved. Hard to see at an angle...

What you going with as far as wheels/tires?
 

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are the arms you built adjustable?
 

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The arms are simply the stock arms cut and lengthened... and beefed up of course.
The adjustment is in the cam bolts at the axle, as from the factory.
 

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Need a direct side shot to view proportions.
 

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I was just out looking under my 07 2500 QC and it looks like the upper control arm is the one that will rub if you put 35's or larger (really more of a question than statement):confused013:. Anyhow it seems like a simple solution would be to build offset control arms that follow the frame a little closer. Or option #2 would be a different steering stop. I didn't see one when I looked but I'm sure there is a mechanical limiter of some kind. Am I just blowing smoke here or does ether make sense based on your recent mods to your 3500? Nice job on that by the way, and the other vehicles on your web site are awesome.:thumbsup:
 

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Ok, a couple of things... yes, there are limiters you can adjust to limit how far the wheels turn on all vehicles, some have an adjusting bolt, some you ned to weld a thicker tab on them to stop them sooner.

On mine, it's a dually. So the front dually rims have the same offset/inset as the rear wheels... and to make them interchangeable, they install a 3-4" spacer to push the front wheels out (to correct the rims huge offset) as the front rim is turned around backwards from the outside rear wheel.

Not sure if I explained that very well.... :)))


Anyway, by going to a std offset Dodge rim, with little or no offset, it moves my
front tires out to align with the wider 5500 fender flares I have installed.

Since my track is much wider now, I have no issues with rubbing on my control arms.
Just one more advantage to this mod I've done...

I will probablly run 37" or maybe 40" tires... on a 20" rim. Haven't decided yet.
Hate to put them on as it won't fit in the garage once I do that....
 

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OK, got it, at least on your mods. I'll have to crawl under the truck this weekend and see how the steering is mechanically limited on the 2500 front end. I know it's a very minor project compared to the stuff you normally do but would building up some modded upper control arms be something you would consider? Not sure that would solve the rubbing problem with 35's haven't taken any measurements, just talking right now.
 

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238, Can we get a side pic to see how it looks pushed forward? Looks great!!!
 

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Did you run into any issues with trac bar clearance?

When I had my 3'' lift and +2'' control arms my trac bar would contact my diff cover before full suspension compression. It also put the trac bar bushing on the frame side at a pretty severe angle because the axle was pushed so far forward. This obviously wasnt good for me cycling the susp offroad all the time.

also, from your picture below it looks like your shocks have a rearward tilt at ride height from the axle/bottom mount being pushed forward and the top mount still being at the stock location. Since this angle increases as the suspension is compressed are you experiencing any issues with the additional leverage placed on the stock pintop shock/tower design?

The truck looks good man. I've just never seen anyone extend their arms that far on a 3'' lift and I'm trying to mentally work through the geometry as the suspension cycles. :thumbsup:
 

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Thanks PVX.

Ban, I put the trac bar on the otherside of the brace it was originally in... and added a brace on that side.
That moved it about an inch and a half forward.

I would have to slam the truck really hard and fully compress the springs before the trac bar could ever touch the diff. There is also a rubber pad as a bumper under there.

I took the shock towers off, and fabbed a flat plate to lower the top of the shock 3.5 inches. Which is how much lift I put in the front. So the travel for the shocks is the same... as for the angle, hehehhee I drilled the top hole off center to take out most of the angle, by moving the top of the shock forward within the spring

I did my homework first, before I started on the project.

No negative issues with the mod at all...:thumbsup:
 

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nice truck and work!!! :thumbsup: I checked out the site in your signature, you're one he11 of a fabricator! :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

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238, Can we get a side pic to see how it looks pushed forward? Looks great!!!
Here's a side pic with the stock dually wheel, I have since put on the std offset stock Dodge wheel... still deciding on what rims/tires I wanna run.

PS... guys, this really works well... look at the space I have to run larger tires without
having to lift the truck way up... AND the rim is moved out 3" so I don't have any issue with the tires rubbing the control arms.



 

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Thanks IC... hahahhaa I just got your name...

I gotta admit, my 06 dually had stacks with a Bullydog, and that was one SMOKIN rig... I miss the smoke that my 6.7 does not put out. I guess we're going green right?:buttkick:

I hear ya SLIM on the paint... the rims are another issue... I like the para-military look...
not into chrome much at all... I just can't decide on the rims. Everybody has those black rockstars... dammit!
 

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Thanks IC... hahahhaa I just got your name...

I gotta admit, my 06 dually had stacks with a Bullydog, and that was one SMOKIN rig... I miss the smoke that my 6.7 does not put out. I guess we're going green right?:buttkick:
did you also move the bumper forward? how much.
 
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