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having just read a spirted debate about PEMEX and mexican government bashers, I would like to take a pole. The usa has given all its oil rights to private companys souch as mobil ect. ware as mexico is fighting to keep the oil governmently controled. We the people beleave in free markets and free interprize.... Witch is proving to be better. As you well know diesel is reaching 5.00 a gallon in the U.S. and in mexico it is 2.25 a gallon. Witch of these country are looking out for there people. U.S. companys want in to mexico so bad they can tast it... they will tell the people that with more oil being produced that the free market price will be better...... But better for who...... And wouldn't it be nice if the people of the U.S.A. had any say in how or win or for what price our countrys natural nesources are distributed. Any opinions.....?
 

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Yes how many people think our way is better than there way
 

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Yes it would be great if diesel was cheaper, no question. But do we really need more government?:thud: Hell no! They already F-up most things they are involved in.
 

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I would say, if it is so great down there, why are they overrunning the border daily and why wouldn't the ?15 million illegal aliens go back.? What is the question of the poll?
 

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Ok - I reread your post, now I understand, I think. Well, as far as the government controlling resources, I would say they already control land, timber to name a couple, so I may would agree with you about controlling something as important as energy, since it could put this country in worse shape than it already is if fuel stays this high, and will probably go even higher. So it may be good for the nation. However, we are a Capalist society, and there are winners and losers in capatilism.
 

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I fill my 60 gal tank on the ford weekly in Mexico...$150 to fill up there and $250 to do it locally... There are things that the Gov't needs to step in and there are things they should step out of...Fuel prices are on thing they should step into...as sad as it sounds, I'd be happy at $3.00 a gallon
 

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Home > Petroleum > Publications > Company Level Imports > Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries

Crude Oil and Total Petroleum Imports Top 15 Countries
February 2008 Import Highlights: April 28, 2008
Monthly data on the origins of crude oil imports in February 2008 has been released and it shows that two countries exported more than 1.50 million barrels per day to the United States. Including those countries, a total of three countries exported over 1.20 million barrels per day of crude oil to the United States (see table below). The top five exporting countries accounted for 70 percent of United States crude oil imports in February while the top ten sources accounted for approximately 88 percent of all U.S. crude oil imports. The top sources of US crude oil imports for February were Canada (1.920 million barrels per day), Saudi Arabia (1.614 million barrels per day), Mexico (1.231 million barrels per day), Nigeria (0.982 million barrels per day), and Venezuela (0.945 million barrels per day). The rest of the top ten sources, in order, were Iraq (0.780 million barrels per day), Angola (0.341 million barrels per day), Kuwait (0.261 million barrels per day), Colombia (0.220 million barrels per day), and Algeria (0.191 million barrels per day). Total crude oil imports averaged 9.606 million barrels per day in February, which is a decrease of (0.394) million barrels per day from January 2008.

Canada remained the largest exporter of total petroleum in February, exporting 2.464 million barrels per day to the United States, which is a decrease from last month (2.586 thousand barrels per day). The second largest exporter of total petroleum was Saudi Arabia with 1.627 million barrels per day.

Crude Oil Imports (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Feb-08 Jan-08 YTD 2008 Feb-07 YTD 2007

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CANADA 1,920 1,944 1,933 1,840 1,848
SAUDI ARABIA 1,614 1,479 1,544 1,185 1,382
MEXICO 1,231 1,198 1,214 1,358 1,398
NIGERIA 982 1,163 1,075 1,061 1,085
VENEZUELA 945 1,135 1,043 1,115 1,031
IRAQ 780 543 658 325 433
ANGOLA 341 566 458 451 504
KUWAIT 261 239 249 158 165
COLOMBIA 220 171 194 73 106
ALGERIA 191 366 281 392 474
ECUADOR 169 247 209 178 226
BRAZIL 169 169 169 103 156
CONGO (BRAZZAVILLE) 97 91 94 41 48
CHAD 89 117 103 87 78
RUSSIA 80 16 47 49 40

Total Imports of Petroleum (Top 15 Countries)
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
Country Feb-08 Jan-08 YTD 2008 Feb-07 YTD 2007

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CANADA 2,464 2,586 2,527 2,448 2,460
SAUDI ARABIA 1,627 1,503 1,563 1,207 1,394
MEXICO 1,327 1,307 1,317 1,507 1,538
VENEZUELA 1,131 1,290 1,214 1,359 1,273
NIGERIA 1,025 1,191 1,110 1,102 1,120
IRAQ 780 543 658 325 433
RUSSIA 451 392 421 241 297
ALGERIA 384 636 514 555 672
VIRGIN ISLANDS 351 380 366 312 371
ANGOLA 350 578 468 464 522
KUWAIT 266 239 252 168 170
COLOMBIA 240 198 218 85 118
ECUADOR 186 260 224 185 231
BRAZIL 172 225 200 151 203
BELGIUM 164 115 139 53 60

Note: The data in the tables above exclude oil imports into the U.S. territories.

My point......if diesel costs 2.25 a gallon in mexico and you only need to truck 100 miles to LA the station makes .25 fed and state tax .48 Thats 3.00 a gallon not 5.00
It would seem that mexico is the third largest supply of oil to USA.
IT is not mexico screwing us..... and i am from oregon and not mexican
 

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I dont know where you received your info on the price of diesel in mexico. I work at a packing house and some of the employees are from mexico and one of them recently went to mexico city and he said diesel is 8 dollars a gallon.
Plus most of the price increase if from the weak US dollar and china sucking it all up.
 

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I filled up 3 days ago and it was $2.46 a gal...Your mexican Co-Worker doesn't want you to go down there and make his cost go up. lol
 

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Well if memory seves me correctly, Mexico city is somewhat of an island on a lake...i could be wrong on this. So if this is true, i could undertand that it would be more difficult to deliver it there. Also, Mexico city is a HUGE city, like NYC. INFLATION,INFLATION,INFLATION!!!
 

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I am in my house in punta cabras baja norta right now. Diesel is 5.76 per litter as sunday win i went to cosco for supplys and filled the tank. 4 litter is 1 gallon and aprox a pint. Exchange rate 10.20 to 1. 2 bucks+20.40 pesos do your own math . I filled my truck aprox 90 gallons 1900 peseo That under 190.00 dollors or about 2.25 a gallon. However gas is not cheep in mexco , it is about 3.00 a gallon . I am on sattlelight and solar power
 

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Maybe eight in spanish means around $2.64...lol
 

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Another note... The price of fuel in mexico is the same all stations, at least in baja.
 

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Dune runner you ever get out to lake havasu
 

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I have been there a few times to talk with shops about the products...other than that, I haven't done much partying
 

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dune runner do you know any of the people at taylors sand cars. I building a prerunner and was thinking of having them do some work ???
 

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dune runner next time you come this way Pm me, will have to change that never party'd havasu style ... I'll call some girls , you can take your own pics
 
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