You dont know what you are talking about Steven. Get back to work.:rof:lol3:you know....KMC makes a black rockstar for dually's now..... I think even chrome. Only avaliable in 17" though. there is also a company, ill do some looking to find the name, that makes 22", 22.5", 24", and 24.5" direct 8 lug bolt ons styled like the alcoa semi wheels. I see if i can locate the name of the company. i have seen them before. Not bad looking and cheaper than the actualy 22.5" and adaptors. As far as the 22.5" Alcoa, chromewheel.com is probably about the best pricing ive seen.