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ok i know, and i did search this, i broke the frigin timing pin off so im going into the front cover anyways, i have heard that the kits for the 94-98.5 12V is different then the first gens, also that the 24v and 1st gens are the same kit according to tst, basically i am asking where you got your kit from if you have done the KDP fix on a 1st gen and if it worked or not...
 

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I haven't done it yet in my truck and I'm not sure where you are located but i know pdr sells the kit
 

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You mean that the timing pins didn't come from the factory broken off?
 

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i got my kit from tst products....no problems so far
 

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You mean that the timing pins didn't come from the factory broken off?
yours may have been but mine was my own stupid fault, PDR's kit is more than tst's but tst's dosent come with a gasket it comes with RTV, ide rather have the gasket, i still havent confirmed if tst's kit will fit 1st gen 12v's...
 

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check out PDR Diesel Performance they have the kit for the 1st gens i made my own and had to put a bend/step in the tab i have seen kits where the tab is flat and would not have worked very well on my 1st gen because where it bolts there is a lil metal ridge so that is why i had to put a bend/step in it other wise the gap between the kdp and the tab would have been like more then a half inch or so i didnt feel comfortable with that....hope this helped?
 

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yours may have been but mine was my own stupid fault, PDR's kit is more than tst's but tst's dosent come with a gasket it comes with RTV, ide rather have the gasket, i still havent confirmed if tst's kit will fit 1st gen 12v's...
Shhh!!! Don't admit to it, blame it on the factory! :thumbsup
 

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I peened mine, no problems so far.

First gens don't have this problem nearly as much as 2nd gen 12Vs. When I peened mine it had 300k on it and the pin was countersunk 1/8 inch or so still.

Chris
 

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I staked mine in also.
 

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Everybody Should Already Have the Best KDP Kit

Center punch & hammer is the best KDP kit you can use. I cannot imagine why anyone would pay money to bolt in another piece of metal all set to cause even more damage when the bolt holding it on with one less thread now comes out.
 

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I like the idea of making my own. I use sheet steel stock, 14 gauge and then remove the cap screw near the pin. I install a longer cap screw and lock tite that one along with the others. You can't do much with the one cam retainer cap screw . Tighten it and hope it won't come loose.

The tab must be stepped. The casting has a longer boss which translates to why the first gen trucks don't have such a terrible time with the pin dislodging as the others w/much less material at the point of the pin boss.

The Cummins tab is a joke. It's like "paper thin".
 

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yea i got the remains of the timing pin out without having to pull the cover just gonna get another pin and call it a day, i thank you all for the advice ill probably just make my own then as its not the labor thats a problem it the cash so home made is good, hence my exhaust... anyways thanx again
 
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