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GeneraLeescummins
I ordered these HID Xenon + 94-01 Dodge Ram Angel Eye Halo LED Projector Headlights - Black HID headlights to replace the crappy Chinese HIDs that previous owner had put on. I got all the LEDs and Halos hooked up, however the HID main beam and the High beam wont come on for the life of me. My old ones were a 2 plug system that had a splitter going from the trucks harness (1 plug) and than split to each bulb. I believe this is where the problem is, as I have got both lights to turn on when connected directly to battery. I ordered this HID Xenon Fuse Relay Wire Harness With Resistor Kit "relay harness'' also as supposedly the stock truck harness can not supply enough energy to keep HIDs on? Even with the relay harness connected they still wont come on. I am absolutely lost with this, i spent all day on it yesterday and you can imagine how frustrating it is knowing how easy this should be. I have nothing else to try other than completely rip apart my entire headlight wiring and see if there's something the PO screwed up. Im open to ANY suggestions or ideas.
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Smourj21
i have the same head lights

just to verify is it hooked up like this picture.


The wires in the plugs may be backwords. pull the pins out of the plugs on the relay harness and plug them into the stock headlight harness. I havent bought an HID kit yet where i havent had to switch the pins around.
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GeneraLeescummins
Smourj21 said:
i have the same head lights

just to verify is it hooked up like this picture.


The wires in the plugs may be backwords. pull the pins out of the plugs on the relay harness and plug them into the stock headlight harness. I havent bought an HID kit yet where i havent had to switch the pins around.
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You are referring to the plug on the diagram that says"back to stock harness"? Just flip it around?
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GeneraLeescummins
Should the grounds not be grounded to batterys?
Also my relay harnesss doesn't look like yours, on one end it has this separate connector that looks like it is a resistor or something?
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GeneraLeescummins
This is my harness, what does this separate connector do?
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Smourj21
doesn't have to be grounded to the batteries, as the batteries are grounded to the body/frame....so any good contact with metal will work to ground them out. yeah not sure why you have a resistor. I'm not sure its needed... and yeah where the harness plugs into the OEM bulb plug in, try and switch them around.

One thing that sucks about these relay harnesses, they are made for cars. i had to add about a foot of wire to the lead to reach the other side of the truck.
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03TANKER
The resistor is suppose to be hooked inline of your factory harness between the low beam wire and the ground wire, this is probably your problem you are having not being able to get them to come on, post a pic of the housings you have purchased please. This is the correct harness for these trucks with the 9007 bulb which is what you have.
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Gunny Fitz
Too many HID threads!

ATTENTION-- THERE MAY NEED TO BE A STICKY ON THIS WHOLE HID THING!!!


I cannot get over how many threads there are on this entire issue on this forum! I once thought it was difficult myself but these are the ONLY items I bought which work PERFECTLY on my 05. If you all just do this right no one shoud have any issues afterward.
**The negative wire inside resistor did require to be changed and placed in the middle position which you will read as "reversed polarity" and I have not had ONE problem since (other than people hi beaming me) Geesh.

These are the items I got which all work perfectly after being hooked up correctly by a friend who does this for a living (not all that difficult) Once the resistors are screwed onto the thin aluminum section of truck BEHIND the entire headlight housing they plug into the HID light wires. The bulbs themselves fit right into the stock openings without an issue and with the lock rings tightend right up.

If you have the ability to angle the bulbs downward a bit it will help with you being "Hi Beamed" by oncoming drivers since they are bright as ! When you put the actual high beams themswlves on they have this tiny motor that angles them upward activating the hi beams. Kinda cool but between the low beams and a really bright set of fog light bulbs you hardly ever need hi beams. I still get hi beamed once in awhile anyway. Oh well.

Ford 9007 JDM Headlights Bi Xenon Premium White 6000K Slim HID Conversion Kit | eBay (yes it says Ford but it worked on Dodge)

2X 9004 9007 HID Conversion Kit Error Free Load Resistors Wiring Harness | eBay

FOR THE INTERIOR

2X 9004 9007 HID Conversion Kit Error Free Load Resistors Wiring Harness | eBay

2pcs 41mm C5W Pure WHITE16 LED 3528 SMD Interior Festoon Light Dome Bulb DC 12V | eBay

Couldnt believe you can simply plug these tiny LED bulbs into the stock interior dome and reading lights without having any type of conversion kits. The blue floor bulbs cast a light glow under the dash and operate when the doors open and close, or with a switch for when you are driving. They can even flicker with the sound of music but I didnt want to flashback to the 80s at this point.
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03TANKER
I agree, there is like 2 threads a day on this HID stuff
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Gunny Fitz
03- I am installing my Edge CTS JWA next week. How you like your CS man?
I had the old JWA and it died on me, so they took the old one in and gave me this new setup wicked cheap man- couldnt pass the deal up!!! We need to compare audio systems too man!. Will PM you my info so we can get off these damn HID threads! LOL
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03TANKER
Ok dude! lol I love my CS the hot tune is well :thumbsup: no defueling at higher RPM's it's niceee
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GeneraLeescummins
Gunny Fitz said:
ATTENTION-- THERE MAY NEED TO BE A STICKY ON THIS WHOLE HID THING!!!


I cannot get over how many threads there are on this entire issue on this forum! I once thought it was difficult myself but these are the ONLY items I bought which work PERFECTLY on my 05. If you all just do this right no one shoud have any issues afterward.
**The negative wire inside resistor did require to be changed and placed in the middle position which you will read as "reversed polarity" and I have not had ONE problem since (other than people hi beaming me) Geesh.

These are the items I got which all work perfectly after being hooked up correctly by a friend who does this for a living (not all that difficult) Once the resistors are screwed onto the thin aluminum section of truck BEHIND the entire headlight housing they plug into the HID light wires. The bulbs themselves fit right into the stock openings without an issue and with the lock rings tightend right up.

If you have the ability to angle the bulbs downward a bit it will help with you being "Hi Beamed" by oncoming drivers since they are bright as ! When you put the actual high beams themswlves on they have this tiny motor that angles them upward activating the hi beams. Kinda cool but between the low beams and a really bright set of fog light bulbs you hardly ever need hi beams. I still get hi beamed once in awhile anyway. Oh well.

Ford 9007 JDM Headlights Bi Xenon Premium White 6000K Slim HID Conversion Kit | eBay (yes it says Ford but it worked on Dodge)

2X 9004 9007 HID Conversion Kit Error Free Load Resistors Wiring Harness | eBay

FOR THE INTERIOR

2X 9004 9007 HID Conversion Kit Error Free Load Resistors Wiring Harness | eBay

2pcs 41mm C5W Pure WHITE16 LED 3528 SMD Interior Festoon Light Dome Bulb DC 12V | eBay

Couldnt believe you can simply plug these tiny LED bulbs into the stock interior dome and reading lights without having any type of conversion kits. The blue floor bulbs cast a light glow under the dash and operate when the doors open and close, or with a switch for when you are driving. They can even flicker with the sound of music but I didnt want to flashback to the 80s at this point.
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By resistor you mean the golden thing correct? So I need to reverse the resistor and by reversing it, it will reverse the polarity to the connector? There is obviously no "middle position" in my resistor, as only one wire runs to it and one wire runs out of it.
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GeneraLeescummins
whoa wait a second, what are these 2X 9004 9007 HID Conversion Kit Error Free Load Resistors Wiring Harness | eBay things you put a link to? all I have is a relay harness. Do I need these ?
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GeneraLeescummins
Alright from what I understand:
Resistors would be needed for bi xenon kits and capacitors would be needed for hid low beam/ halogen high beams. In that case because I have hid low beam halogen highs, wouldn't this "relay harness" everyone sells be useless for hid low /halogen highs?
Question: what kind of capacitors would be needed? Could I go radio shack/ micro center and make my own ?
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03TANKER
General Lee you don't need that secondary harness you posted for your hid kit, a kit that has hid lows and halogen highs is just plug and play.... get rid of that harness and plug the ballast into the factory plug then plug into the bulb harness... this should make them operate correctly.
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03TANKER
The only reason you need that harness with the relay is if you have a bixenon kit, you don't need resistors or capacitors for your kit, I had the same kit in my truck then I switched to a bixenon, when I had the kit you did the ballast plugged right into the factory harness then the bulb plugged into the ballast, if you have further questions pm me.
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GeneraLeescummins
First, thanks to everyone that helped.
I think I found my problem, first the headlights had the low beam and ground wired backwards(I believe this is how a 9007 is wired and our trucks are 9004), I fixed that and still nothing came on.
I got a good multimeter and this is what I found


With headlights and truck turned off...
Left wire (High beam): 12.05 V
Middle wire (Low beam): 1.0 mV
Right wire (ground): .3 mV


With low beam headlights turned on...
Left wire (High beam): 11.9 V
Middle wire (Low beam): 10 mV
Right wire (ground): .1mV


With Bright's turned on...
Left wire (High beam): .425 V
Middle wire (Low beam): .2 mV
Right wire (ground): .1 mV


All measurements were the same for both passenger and driver side headlights.
Im assuming these measurements are not what they should be. When I connect headlights directly to battery they come on so the problem has to be the energy supply, also when I plug my old headlights in they do not come on.

So I think what happened was that when I plugged the new headlights in and the ground and low beam wire were switched, they shorted each other out?
Im not an electrician so im not sure If this is even possible.
Can anyone confirm these voltage measurements are messed up? I think they have to be but than again I've spent a good week installing "plug and play " headlights.
I have tried capacitor packs, and the relay harness, with neither of them helping.




All voltage measurements are taken looking directly at trucks 9004 male headlight plug
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03TANKER
General send me a pm and we will get this sorted out, I would like to see pictures of just your kits not the other wiring harness you posted.
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