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Ok until yesterday I've been running a Smarty, boost fooler, and edge on a stock turbo.... the stock turbo would hit 39psi.

I then bought a II SB 66 and boost fooler.... I installed everything and now the max boost reading is 24psi. The previous owner of the 66 has the gate set at 39psi.

So my question is.... is the edge reading the wrong boost? Or do I have to boost fooler in the wrong position?

Right now it goes Edge, Boost fooler, Engine.

Should it be Boost fooler, edge, engine? Seems like then the edge would read wrong right?

I dont know if this is a scientific way of thinking but I noticed when the stocker is at 39 its screaming.... when this one hits 24 its loud but not as loud as the stocker at 39 which makes me believe its reading true at 24. Again not scientific just an observation.

I think tomorrow Im going to try and take out the boost fooler to see what it reads. If it still reads 24, then I'll maybe try and adjust the wastegate itself. I also turned off the wastegate on the smarty since thats what it says to do in the instructions for aftermarket turbos. Thoughts?
 

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do you have a mechanical boost gauge or just your edge? what settings on the smarty are you running? other than that i believe it goes map sensor, boost fooler, edge....i may be wrong but just my $.02
 

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do you have a mechanical boost gauge or just your edge? what settings on the smarty are you running? other than that i believe it goes map sensor, boost fooler, edge....i may be wrong but just my $.02
No mechanical guages at the moment. I am planning on getting a triple guage pod though.

I believe my smarty is....
Level - 6
Torque - 2
Rail - 3
Timing - 3
Wastegate - off

So your saying put the boost fooler BEFORE the Edge and plug the edge into the motor? I know i have my terminology wrong because Im not remembering at the moment how i hooked up the edge its been so long hahaha.
 

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I have a quick question, doesnt the smarty have a built in boost fooler? Do you benifit from having another boost fooler?
I dont know the answer to that.... but I never seen anywhere that says it does... so Im assuming it doesn't.
 

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smartys "boost fooler" is the wastegate on/off function. i think the 6.7's guys are having headgasket issues cause there running a boost fooler or something marco posted about it in one of their threads.

PUREVIL im saying go engine (map sensor, plug with blue weathertight packing), boost fooler, than edge i believe you have it hooked up correct. you checkin boost pressure at full throttle? is there a load on engine?
 

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smartys "boost fooler" is the wastegate on/off function. i think the 6.7's guys are having headgasket issues cause there running a boost fooler or something marco posted about it in one of their threads.

PUREVIL im saying go engine (map sensor, plug with blue weathertight packing), boost fooler, than edge i believe you have it hooked up correct. you checkin boost pressure at full throttle? is there a load on engine?
Oh ok Im thinking backwards here.... I do have it hooked up like you suggest.

Im checking it at full throttle while driving.... it just stops at 24. I mean it gets to 80mph quick though LOL. The original owner said he set the gate to 39psi and it would hit 39 in his truck. Im not concerned about the turbo being used because he said it had less than 100 miles on it because his tranny blew up. When I got the turbo it looked new as can be with absolutely NO play in the shaft at all.
 

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i read another one of your posts looks like you bought the turbo from (strokethis07) he seems way cool and a stand up guy i dont doubt that turbo at all...just throwing ideas out there. im sure someone will chime in with the right answer soon
 

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i read another one of your posts looks like you bought the turbo from (strokethis07) he seems way cool and a stand up guy i dont doubt that turbo at all...just throwing ideas out there. im sure someone will chime in with the right answer soon
Ya I got it from strokethis07 hes a great guy I asked him the same question and hes not sure why its reading 24 so I decided to make a thread. To try and get more info.
 

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smartys "boost fooler" is the wastegate on/off function. i think the 6.7's guys are having headgasket issues cause there running a boost fooler or something marco posted about it in one of their threads.

PUREVIL im saying go engine (map sensor, plug with blue weathertight packing), boost fooler, than edge i believe you have it hooked up correct. you checkin boost pressure at full throttle? is there a load on engine?
So do you think it would be a good idea to run a boost fooler on a stock tranny with a smarty on a low setting

Sorry for the slight hi jack:D
 

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With everything in my sig minus the turbo I was beating the hell out of my truck with my edge on 5 and my smarty settings listed above and my stock tranny is holding strong. I havent been to rough since strokethis07 said this turbo ruined his built tranny so im a lil scared at the moment. But I've giving it the juice a few times and I cant feel any slip.... but then again thats why im wondering if its really running only 24psi. I want a built billet trans bad so I can crank everything up and beat the snot out of it and really have some fun! LOL
 

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Yea stock auto tranny.... I've done a lot of burnouts, 10 psi boosted launches, but drifting is my thing though.... even in the huge ram its so much fun to kick this sucker sideways and watch peoples faces as it slides around corners black and tire smoke hahahaaha. I always thought it would be neat to see a slammed regular cab or quad cab dually cummins drift truck with one super wide rear tire! Maybe that will be my next project! LOL

But under light throttle it shifts smooth, under hard acceleration I dont feel any slippage.
 

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Yea stock auto tranny.... I've done a lot of burnouts, 10 psi boosted launches, but drifting is my thing though.... even in the huge ram its so much fun to kick this sucker sideways and watch peoples faces as it slides around corners black and tire smoke hahahaaha. I always thought it would be neat to see a slammed regular cab or quad cab dually cummins drift truck with one super wide rear tire! Maybe that will be my next project! LOL

But under light throttle it shifts smooth, under hard acceleration I dont feel any slippage.
We have already tubbed the wheels and did the big slick in the rear at Brown's Diesel. There truck goes sideways at 87mph from what I have heard :shock: .

As for boost fooling. Smarty only boost fools to 44 psi. I think you have a slipping converter,but don't notice it or you don't have enough fuel to light that turbo up. I know this since I been there, done that. Check all your rubber boots and clamps. Tighten them all over and check where your intake horn goes for any leak under the plate or the gasket as well.

You have the boost fooler set up right, but I don't know if it is plugged in upside down or backwards.. I know RajKalkat can tap his 60psi Diprocol Gauge with his 66 and II 200hp sticks with a II CP3 of course.

What is your temperature? Because temperature can effect boost up to 10 psi, but not as much as you are stating. Where are you reading boost from? Where was Strokethis07 reading boost from?
 

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Yes,90's should be lighting that charger up and the truck should goes sideways after that turbo builds 12psi, since after 12 psi the boost comes on very quick. I will ask a buddy who had DDP 90's and a Silver Bullet on his 05 truck what he was seeing as well.
 

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If you are reading from the edge the edge has to be plugged in first, or it will see the what the ECM is seeing..

Smarty does boost fool, but only to 44psi.

The Edge Boost fools also, so another boost fooler shouldn't be needed.

Boost Foolers let the ECM see about 22-24psi MAX... seems to me you have it hooked up backwords.

The correct order should be

Engine---MAP Sensor---Egde---Boost Fooler---Stock MAP plug---ECM
 
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