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Pics & another review of the Genos garage sold 3rd gen seat cover & foam...

Seat cover: Looks like quality work for the most part. Material ends however that are under the seat are unfinished, should be sewn for a clean edge. Will it affect its performance? No since it is under the seat.
















Foam: Looks decent however the reinforcement does not appear to cover what I would expect. If you look at the pics the reinforcement stops short of the area's that typically tear. No idea if the foam is durable enough to hold up long term against tearing but my guess is it wont. The fix I have for the foam tearing will remain in place. Tearing it apart today will reveal how it held up over the last 3 years (damn, 3 years now???)









Look at how the burlap material extends to the edge, it falls short





Install coming later today... maybe... will see what I find when I tear it apart.


closer pics of the foam & the embedded support

this is the support by the hinge where the back support is... this should be how the sides look IMO...




this is the inside of the foam, seen by the thicker bolster




This is the outer bolster, the reinforcement does not extend as far as it should. when pressing down on the foam the edge can be felt and it definitely falls short








This pic you can see how far the burlap extends, the shade of the foam changes slightly indicating the end of the burlap. pressing down on the foam I can feel the edge of the material.

 

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Damn, I've been eyeing their kit, but part of me just wants to hold out for a full set of 4th Gen buckets instead.
 

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Damn, I've been eyeing their kit, but part of me just wants to hold out for a full set of 4th Gen buckets instead.
I was doing the same, but you'll be happy doing this. I wish I had done it years ago instead of holding out for 4th gen seats. Specially when their prices don't seem to be dropping anytime soon and finding a cheap set is just for the crazy lucky.
 

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if you saw my fix for the seat base, you'd see how it cradles the outer edge so it cannot flex under weight of a driver exit. When I installed it (2016? 2017?) the foam was torn and useless. I "fixed it" back into its original shape, implemented the fix and its held up very well since the install. There might be a slight degradation in the foam since then but it has exceeded my expectations after the fix. My seat fabric has now worn thru so its a good time to swap it since I am anchored at home (thanks Covid-19...).

I plan to take pics of the tear down of the seat bottom to see how well the fix held up.
 

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Damn, I've been eyeing their kit, but part of me just wants to hold out for a full set of 4th Gen buckets instead.
Even a leather 2010 seat is much more comfortable. My buddy sourced some from a vendor for his ST. Soo much better than my picnic bench 3rd's and I have the Geno's upgraded ones. I've had seat covers on them from week two so the fabric is like new.
 

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I might be a different size than some of you guys, but the seats in my 540,000 km 3rd Gen SLT are definitely more comfortable than the ones in my 2014 SXT. My backrest no longer tilts though. I’ll have to fix that...
 

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I might be a different size than some of you guys, but the seats in my 540,000 km 3rd Gen SLT are definitely more comfortable than the ones in my 2014 SXT. My backrest no longer tilts though. I’ll have to fix that...
there is a mechanisim for tilting the back that can get gunked up iirc... there is a video on how to fix it.

when i got rear ended by the semi the seat back broke and it "slips" droping the back down going ro see if i can address that as well. word has it there is a pair of screws that can be adjusted/tightened to help that out
 

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Following. I still have seat heaters to install and some time on my hands. Might be a good time to replace the OEM seat cover and add a little reinforcement to the Geno's seat foam already installed.
 

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Following. I still have seat heaters to install and some time on my hands. Might be a good time to replace the OEM seat cover and add a little reinforcement to the Geno's seat foam already installed.
You need to pull your cushion and give us an update :grin2:

Nogo on my install, pics to follow...
 

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Here's what I found when I tore apart the seat bottom... wire mesh broke in several places and most likely not helping out anymore. Seat still felt fine though, wierd.
























These 2 pics are screen shots of the reclining mechanism in released and locked positions, looking to fix the loose back problem.






Gonna hold off on the new cushion install until I can find a better solution for the wire mesh solution.
 

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have no idea if this will help, but the huge gap that exists in the 2 pieces next to the cable release... I compressed them and closed that gap. I put the same cushion back on with the tired seat cover for now.
 

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You need to pull your cushion and give us an update :grin2:

Nogo on my install, pics to follow...
I'm planning to do an update when I get to the seat heaters. Should be soon since I have some extra time on my hands. I was desperate and in a hurry when I replaced my seat foam. I used duct tape on my seat rails and the bottom of my cushion in the compression/wear points. What could possibly go wrong with that fine level of engineering and craftsmanship!?

My seats are kind a pain to work on. I installed some really tight "Ruff Tuff / Cabela's" seat covers over the OEM covers. They look really nice and do a good job of protecting the seats. As a bonus, they're cold in winter and hot and sticky in the summer, plus it's twice the work to get the covers on and off.

I was surprised to see the wire mesh failed like that. Back to the drawing board I guess. I'm wondering if the carpet idea might work better.
 

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I am thinking a thin sheetmetal might work better... I have an idea for support without having to go all the way across to make it work. The foam was still in pretty good shape after 2 years and a bandaid fix.

Update your thread when you look at it. I am curious to see how your foam holds up.

I have a pile of gauges to put back in, I should be working on that.
 

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Thanks for reminding me that I need to do this to mine as well, I did a "fix" few years back, but now I guess it is time to fully re-engineer it. Thanks for all the pics
 

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I used super 90 3m spray adhesive, and applied burlap to the edges of my genos seat foam. Going to have a hard time cutting through burlap. I wanted to get a fiberglass weave type stuff, but I wasnt prepared and burlap was the easiest thing to get.

Overall the foam is better and it was nice upgrade from the collapsed/sliced and ruined foam that was in there.

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I used super 90 3m spray adhesive, and applied burlap to the edges of my genos seat foam. Going to have a hard time cutting through burlap. I wanted to get a fiberglass weave type stuff, but I wasnt prepared and burlap was the easiest thing to get.

Overall the foam is better and it was nice upgrade from the collapsed/sliced and ruined foam that was in there.

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I like your idea @smelonas . It wouldn't be very hard to laminate an extra layer of protection on the bottom of the seat foam. I think I even have an extra can of 3M adhesive in the garage. Heavy burlap or some sort of fiberglass mesh should do it.
 

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I like your idea @smelonas . It wouldn't be very hard to laminate an extra layer of protection on the bottom of the seat foam. I think I even have an extra can of 3M adhesive in the garage. Heavy burlap or some sort of fiberglass mesh should do it.[/quote @Eric-07 it was his idea. I might even have some pics of the install. I need a new seat cover though. So it has to come back apart. Maybe I'll find some fiberglass mesh and stick that on.

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That seat cover and foam looks like it came from the same place I got mine , note the carpet wrapped around the front . I compared the Genoa foam and my guys when I was purchasing mine and they looked identical just much cheaper .
 

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Picked this up on another site. Using Dupont Typar to reinforce seat foam. The guy who posted it previously worked at a large factory that manufactured seats.

"OEM foam uses Typar as a reinforcement fabric. If you're going to a PnP look for it in some scrap seats, it'll be pretty thin and gray in colour. Put more than one layer anywhere the foam contacts the frame. Any hardware store spray contact cement will work . Sometimes you can buy Typar by the yard at gardening places. It's the fabric you lay down in planting beds to prevent weed growth."


I think I may have a partial roll of landscaping fabric in the garage. Will have to check it out and see if it's the right stuff. Multiple layers laminated together in critical stress points may do the trick. It's thin and porous enough that the glue should permeate it.
 
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