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I have been reading a good amount about filtration on this site and have decided to use the basic DIY kits seen on here. Using a Cat Filter 1R-0750
and a Baldwin water/sep BF1212. I was going to mount them together like they did in this thread
http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/tech-article-submission/376796-ctd-2-stage-2-micron-absolute-fuel-filtration-baldwin-cat-under-truck.html

but was also looking into using a Glacier bracket to mount it under the hood. Like in this thread

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/3rd-gen-powertrain/74928-installing-additional-fuel-filters-gdp-w-cat-2-micron-fuel-water-sep.html

I Will also be doing the big line kit up front as i have most of the stuff laying around. I will also change to a Baldwin PF7977 in the stock location

What would be the better set up and is there an advantage to mounting the fuel filter under the hood? If not I will just mount them together at the back of the truck so they are nice and easy to change.
 

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I like the filters under the truck but then I don't do much rough off roading anymore with the headache of tearing them off.

less chance of fuel drainage on my engine and front axle in filter change.

Cooled fuel has more energy, less expansion. I only tow much of it in summer desert temps so extreme high under hood temps. extra filters around the engine block important fan air flow especially on hard slow steep pulls.

some say it's better to suck from the filters rather than pumping to them. can't say I've ever seen a difference in filtration quality. believe one of the water separator companies recommends pump pulling from their water separator rather than force pumping thru it.

where's your lift pump at. OEM stock '03 or intank conversion?
 

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The lift pump is factory, this will be the first thing I will be doing to the truck (other than removing the muffler) so as of now everything on the truck is stock. I am going to try and find the bracket that they used in that thread if not I'll be making my own this week
 

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The lift pump is factory, this will be the first thing I will be doing to the truck (other than removing the muffler) so as of now everything on the truck is stock. I am going to try and find the bracket that they used in that thread if not I'll be making my own this week
So the lift pump is on the back of the fuel canister? If so I would upgrade the LP prior to adding any additional filters. That pump is overstressed from the factory much less with additional tighter filters.
 

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I have a stock LP. I have a baldwin fuel water separator under the truck to the factory fuel filter where I have a baldwin 5 micron then to a cat 2 micron on the GDP base. My stock LP has no problem keeping up. I prefer the filter to be under the hood because i like going in a descending order( 5 micron, to 2 micron )

here is my fuel water separator


here is my 2 micron cat


There are a few others running this set up with the stock LP
 

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NW05cummins Made my under the truck filter bracket. He can also get you everything you need for the install.
 

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NW05cummins Made my under the truck filter bracket. He can also get you everything you need for the install.
Nice looking set up, I am little confused cause it looks like a DPF in the background of the top picture.

Anyways, your 2007 has an in tank lift pump the 03-04.5 trucks had an on fuel canister lift pump which sucked the fuel all the way from the tank. So failure prone dodge moved them in tank starting in 2005 and retro fitted failed early LPs as they came in.
 

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Nice looking set up, I am little confused cause it looks like a DPF in the background of the top picture.

Anyways, your 2007 has an in tank lift pump the 03-04.5 trucks had an on fuel canister lift pump which sucked the fuel all the way from the tank. So failure prone dodge moved them in tank starting in 2005 and retro fitted failed early LPs as they came in.
I think you are seeing my CAT.

That's true I forgot about the fuel canister lift pump. If that's what the truck has I would get gauges to see if the stock LP is keeping up. If its not keeping up or you just want to replace it without checking the pressure I would look into a Walbro pump or maybe a raptor pump.
 

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So i picked up the 2 filters on friday and today the two heads came in, I went to test fit the filters and screwed the cat filter to the base, it went on great and i just snugged it by hand not tight, and i went to back it off, it came of maybe two spins and then locked up!!!!

I then found one post where this seems to be a common issue. My problem is I got these parts from a local truck center and i supplied the part numbers so i dont know what they will do about it. I was thinking about trying to find a few posts on here that i could bring in to show that im not the only one having trouble but could only find one post. What have you guys that have had this happen done and did the store help you with replacing the parts?
 

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I had this problem and the caterpillar dealer was great at replacing the parts three times and then we ruined four other filters and bases at their shop and they documented the problem and sent it to cat for evaluation. They also replaced my base with a metal threaded base that has no problems. I dealt with Cashman Cat in Reno Nv.

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So what started as a easy and simple filter upgrade has become a pain in the butt!

I brought the stuck filter back to the Hoover Truck center i bought it from and pretty much was told that I used a fleetgaurd filter base with a cat filter and since i supplied the part numbers there was nothing they could do for me.

He told me that the filter base that would work is a CAT number: 2802698

Has anyone used this base or able to get any pictures of it? i cant seem to get a picture of it so i can see if it will work. Its also 40 dollars vs 28 for the fleet gaurd
 

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So what started as a easy and simple filter upgrade has become a pain in the butt!

I brought the stuck filter back to the Hoover Truck center i bought it from and pretty much was told that I used a fleetgaurd filter base with a cat filter and since i supplied the part numbers there was nothing they could do for me.

He told me that the filter base that would work is a CAT number: 2802698

Has anyone used this base or able to get any pictures of it? i cant seem to get a picture of it so i can see if it will work. Its also 40 dollars vs 28 for the fleet gaurd
I dont have any issues with my cat filter and fleet guard filter head...
 

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I think you are seeing my CAT.
Ahh yes...I forgot how huge those were. Current truck doesn't have one and the prior owner of my dodge removed it but I digress.

So i picked up the 2 filters on friday and today the two heads came in, I went to test fit the filters and screwed the cat filter to the base, it went on great and i just snugged it by hand not tight, and i went to back it off, it came of maybe two spins and then locked up!!!!

I then found one post where this seems to be a common issue. My problem is I got these parts from a local truck center and i supplied the part numbers so i dont know what they will do about it. I was thinking about trying to find a few posts on here that i could bring in to show that im not the only one having trouble but could only find one post. What have you guys that have had this happen done and did the store help you with replacing the parts?
Hmmm...Sounds like you got a defective one. I ran a baldwin FB1311 and a FG 142784s filter head...never had an issue with either. Sorry man. I would imagine you would have a good warranty of merchantability claim with it.
 
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