[smally]

Hey guys i live in canada and regularily travel way up north in the winter time. it gets to -40 celcius up there. With that being said im looking at doing a Fass 150 titatnium in the spring. After reading all the lp posts on here i think what i want to do is this. Fass 150, with the vulcan drawstraw 5 (my stock lp has been converted to in tank, so i know i need the 2005-2012 kit), through my stock cannister so i can retain the heater option, as i understand i can connect the fass line that is supposed to run to the cp3 to the stock cannister instead with this part from gdp Glacier Diesel Power - Product Detail . This is where my question is what do i need to buy as far as fuel lines or extra fittins go to replace the stock line from my stock cannister to the cp3 with 1/2 line that the rest of the fass system has? Does my thoughts on this system make sense? I do run stanadyne performance in the winter as an antigel but i feel like in thoses temps keeping the stock heater isisnt a bad idea? thoughts and advice on what i need would be awesome.

thanks

 

[rdefayette]

I'm running the same routing you are talking about EXCEPT I have an AD100.
Works great.
Don't really know that you'll need the additional 1/2" line to the CP3 though as the whole point of the bigger lift pump is to keep the CP3 supplied with fuel and then it's makes the rail pressure.
Unless you are starving the CP3 for fuel I think it would be overkill.
just my 0.02

 

[smally]

I'm running the same routing you are talking about EXCEPT I have an AD100.
Works great.
Don't really know that you'll need the additional 1/2" line to the CP3 though as the whole point of the bigger lift pump is to keep the CP3 supplied with fuel and then it's makes the rail pressure.
Unless you are starving the CP3 for fuel I think it would be overkill.
just my 0.02

my only concern without the line from the stock cannister to the cp3 is that the existing line between the two may be restrictive and hampering the effect of my FASS? thoughts?

 

[smally]

and did you install the vulcan on your own? easy to do?

 

[rdefayette]

my only concern without the line from the stock cannister to the cp3 is that the existing line between the two may be restrictive and hampering the effect of my FASS? thoughts?

I still have the stock line between my stock canister and the CP3 (granted I ONLY have an AD100) and haven't had any problems.
Yes the stock line is smaller than the 1/2" but like I said unless the CP3 is running out of fuel it shouldn't be an issue.
The FASS shouldn't have problem keeping the CP3 happy at all.
My recommendation would be to install the FASS see what happens THEN if needed (which I doubt) replace the canister to CP3 line.

 

[smally]

I still have the stock line between my stock canister and the CP3 (granted I ONLY have an AD100) and haven't had any problems.
Yes the stock line is smaller than the 1/2" but like I said unless the CP3 is running out of fuel it shouldn't be an issue.
The FASS shouldn't have problem keeping the CP3 happy at all.
My recommendation would be to install the FASS see what happens THEN if needed (which I doubt) replace the canister to CP3 line.

thanks a lot man, the FASS/AD line screw right on to the adapter that attaches to the stock cannister? what did you do with the stock fuel line that im assuming was hooked up there? vulcan install easy to do, did it come with decent instuctions?

 

[rdefayette]

thanks a lot man, the FASS/AD line screw right on to the adapter that attaches to the stock cannister? what did you do with the stock fuel line that im assuming was hooked up there? vulcan install easy to do, did it come with decent instuctions?

assuming you aren't using the stock pump just leave it there and keep all the fittings in the truck.
That way IF the FASS/AD does ever take a dump all you have to do is plug in the stock pump, hook up the line and down the road you go! Back up, ya' know?

 

[smally]

assuming you aren't using the stock pump just leave it there and keep all the fittings in the truck.
That way IF the FASS/AD does ever take a dump all you have to do is plug in the stock pump, hook up the line and down the road you go! Back up, ya' know?

yea thats a great idea but didnt you have to take the stock pump out of your cannister when you installed the vulcan straw?

 

[rdefayette]

yea thats a great idea but didnt you have to take the stock pump out of your cannister when you installed the vulcan straw?

Not if you go with a pick up like this.
Glacier Diesel Power - Product Detail
and the canister to CP3 big line kit.
Glacier Diesel Power - Product Detail
OR go to the Hellman sump to really eliminate all the problems!
Hellmann Performance Fuel Tank Sump

 

[smally]

Not if you go with a pick up like this.
Glacier Diesel Power - Product Detail
and the canister to CP3 big line kit.
Glacier Diesel Power - Product Detail
OR go to the Hellman sump to really eliminate all the problems!
Hellmann Performance Fuel Tank Sump

yea that straw comes with the fass system but tons of people have the quarter tank issue with them. did you install the drawstraw from the AD or did you do vulcan draw straw?

 

[rdefayette]

yea that straw comes with the fass system but tons of people have the quarter tank issue with them. did you install the drawstraw from the AD or did you do vulcan draw straw?

I didn't need either as my truck had the canister mounted LP so I could get away with the stock pick up. No problems so far. (2 years)
I do know that if I had to use a different pick up I'd go with the sump vs. a straw of any kind.
I've work with fluids and pumps enough that over the years I've learned (sometimes the hardway) that gravity supply to the pick up beats trying to draw any liquid up a column. The slightest little leak/pinhole and you're dead in the water.
And you can keep the stock pump.

 

[smally]

I didn't need either as my truck had the canister mounted LP so I could get away with the stock pick up. No problems so far. (2 years)
I do know that if I had to use a different pick up I'd go with the sump vs. a straw of any kind.
I've work with fluids and pumps enough that over the years I've learned (sometimes the hardway) that gravity supply to the pick up beats trying to draw any liquid up a column. The slightest little leak/pinhole and you're dead in the water.
And you can keep the stock pump.

my truck has the canister mounted lift pump inside the tank aswell.

 

[rdefayette]

my truck has the canister mounted lift pump inside the tank aswell.

???????? huh?

 

[smally]

was your lp mounted on the side of the block?

 

[dewsdodge]

My fass titanium has a port for a 12 volt heater and also an inlet and outlet port for engine coolant. If gelling is that much of a concern, maybe plumb that option in? Research it on Fass - Fuel Air Separation System Just my thoughts that I would use the heat from the coolant if need be.

 

[smally]

i think its probably easier to just plump it through my stock filter

 

[dewsdodge]

Probably would be easier but that will somewhat restrict flow and also (correct me if Im wrong) the electric heating element in the stock canister isnt on all the time. Its warmer now but its been 20 below at night for nearly a month straight and I don't have gel issues... I always run some kinda additive anyway

 

[smally]

yea i run additive all the time as well im debating on which route to go with the plumbing still. theres always the big line kit to fix the canister to cp3 restriction

 

[cummins crazy]

I wouldn't worry about restriction through the canister. I get 10-12 psi steady to the cp3's. It'll pull down to about 9 on a wot run and I'm running the 3/8" line from glacier as well.

 

[smally]

i was talking about restriction in the line beween the canister and cp3 cause its only hars small fuel like right now correct?