[RaiderNation7]

Ok so to be quick and simple I'm in the market for a new truck. I'm coming from a 6.0 complete meltdown and I've lost my faith in ford. Nothing but problems with our fords. My dad has an 08 cummins and loves it. And so do I which is why I'm making the change. I'm very aware of the emission problems with these trucks. Im lookin at a 2011 or 2012 and my question is by this time had dodge figured out the DPF issues? I know the early years (07.5-08) had major problems with the dpf and egr. I just want to know if after 4-5 years with the same engine and same set up has dodge figured it out and is it less problematic?

 

[CHILL6.7]

Can't say that I know of any DPF issues on the 4th gens. If driven normal and used as a truck with minimal idling the DPF should be fine for the most part. Otherwise it can plug up and cause EVIC messages and sometimes limp mode if it get's bad enough. The EGR on the other hand is no good on any diesel as it is redirecting soot back into the intake. This causes issues down the road no matter how you drive your truck.

 

[RaiderNation7]

Thanks for the reply. I just wonder if much has changed since the dpf was first introduced. You would think cummins after 4.5 years of dealing with dpf problems they would have all the kinks worked out. Anyone else have any insight on this?

 

[JaredMagun]

many unplug or delete the dpf and egr and remove PROBLEMS

 

[SRich12]

As long as you drive it like a diesel should be driven then you will be fine. Short trips and a lot of idling will cause dpf issues which most of the time can be taken care of by frequent highway trips. As stated the EGR is not good for the engine in any way. For a high milage dependable truck you would need to delete all the emission stuff if that is an option!!! DEF in the 13+ trucks is an better option than previous years but...... still not ideal!!! In my opinion!!!

 

[Vatalaro]

The problem isn't the equipment it's the tuning that the EPA forced them to put on these trucks, it's basically a crappy smoke tune, they did this to lower the nox emissions, which is why all the other truck brands used urea injection straight from the get go, it allowed them to run a better tune and still control the nox gases. These trucks with a good custom DPF present tune get better mpg and way less regens and less soot into the EGR system which gets rid of the hesitation off the line. There really is no reason to do deletes with the proper tuning. I've done a ton of testing with custom tunes and have got my tune dialed in for a DPF present or removed tune with almost zero soot output and great power and economy.

 

[00' Quad Cab]

The reason the other brands went to Urea first was because they couldn't meet the next level of emissions without it. Cummins met the next level without the need for Urea.

 

[012cummins]

I have 24,000 on a 12 2500 with zero issues. I DD it around town some. Tow 4-5,000 from April to Oct. The rest is normal driving that I would do with any truck. Some short hops. Some longer runs of 150 miles. No specific pattern. One thing I don't do is sit and idle or drive slow in traffic. Some think you have to be towing heavy all the time. Well what do full timers do when they sit in one spot for 2-3 months at a time. Then hook up their 15,000lb 5th wheel, drive 500 miles to their next 2-3 month stop? JMO but it's the guys that never run it hard and just put around town that get the DPF issues.

 

[bryce3685]

Or you can delete it and never worry about that garbage again. the problem with dpf ' s is they WILL wear out thats non negotiable so if you keep that stuff you will need the egr cleaned at some point and will most likely replace a turbo or 2. The dpf will also fail at some point can't be sure when depending on use but it will happen in the trucks life if kept stock. IMO it's way easier if you live somewhere that allows it to delete and not ever have to worry about those problems set it on a stock type tune and enjoy the truck idle it when u want don't stink in traffic like burnt toast and get better milage all while treating the motor better as it's not eating it's own farts lol.

 

[memphis ram]

I bought my truck NEW in late 11 (12 model) and for the first 36k it was in the shop 7 times all for the same P2000 code the EGR valve was replaced along with every sensor and the haress for said sensors under warranty... after the 36k warranty it was in for 11 times (100k emisions warranty) for pretty much the same stuff... finally the service advisor told me to delete ( i was planning to after the 100k warranty was out) and they would work with me on any issues i had.. this is my 4th dodge product so i am very familiar with my dealer great people too... anyhow.. deleted now for about 5k and have not had any issues what so ever truck is much stronger mileage is 18.5 to 21 on the highway depending on my foot and wind and 16-17 in town.. most of my driving is in town not pulling a load, i only tow about 30% of the time up to a max of around 10k most times it is less than 4k towing... I would buy delete and never look back

 

[RaiderNation7]

Thanks for all the replys. Lucky for me I live in Lubbock Tx and don't have to worry about the emissions testing so I would cut it off asap. But if I get a 2012 it should still be under warranty and I wouldn't want to void that mostly because if I buy the truck I wouldn't have the money to delete it right away. So I would have to keep it stock for the time being. I just don't want to purchase a $35k plus truck and it be in the shop 4 days out of the week. That's my only issue. I want the truck to give me as little trouble as I can until I have the money to delete it. Which again is why I was hoping there were less problems with the 4th gens when it comes to the dpf/egr

 

[CHILL6.7]

You'll never be 100% problem free as long as the emissions equipment is equipped. That being said that doesn't mean you'll be in the shop all the time either. The only issues I had with both my 4th gens were the O2 sensors. On my truck I have now the CEL came on about a week before I deleted because of the O2 sensors. Now no issues. But I never had any problems with EGR or DPF.

 

[RaiderNation7]

Ok so it seems as though dpf/egr problems are few and far between in the 4th gens. Granted the problem still exists but I'm less likely to be plagued by it. I do plan on deleting it down the road once I have the money. Dropping 35k or more on a truck means lots of ramen noodles haha. Thanks again for all the replys

 

[bryce3685]

If you get the itch at sum point to delete before funds let you u can use sims and a delete pipe for under 200$ the egr will still be pumping but no more stinky regens. Most have a CEL when deleting that way but it does work.