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I was looking into the smoke rules in the state of new Jersey and stumbled over this crock. So how many tons a day did they feed to a rat? Kiss my :butt: you ignerant tree hugging politicians. :rof


TOXIC EMISSIONS

A recently released final report by the USEPA listed diesel exhaust as a probable cause of lung cancer. It is also associated with increase risk of asthma and other breathing related illnesses. Both USEPA and the California Air Resources Board have declared diesel exhaust a toxic substance.

Diesel soot particles, and the chemicals that adhere to them (such as benzene) are the cause of the problem. Sulfur in the fuel helps to form soot particles. Too much fuel causes the large black particles we can see. The large particles, called PM10 (particulate matter, over 10 microns in diameter), once ingested, can be mostly expelled from the body, when caught by your natural air filtration system. Small particles, called PM2.5 (2.5 microns or less in diameter), can become trapped in the body, and cannot be expelled. In general, particulates cause breathing problems, and the associated chemicals may cause other physiologic illnesses. Diesel engines also produce nitrogen oxides, which help to form ozone, which is also a contributing cause of breathing illnesses.

The risk of health effects include: increased incidence of asthma, bronchitis, and other breathing related illnesses, increased emergency room visits, and increased mortality. Risk increases with increased exposure to diesel exhaust.

For more information on diesel exhaust and health issues, follow these links:

Asthma - NJDEP Air Toxics in New Jersey - Asthma Information
Diesel emissions - NJDEP Air Toxics in New Jersey - Diesel Emissions & the 1999 NATA Results
CARB Diesel Toxic Assessment - http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/summary/dieselex/dieselex.htm
California's Diesel Risk Reduction Program - Background Material: California's Diesel Risk Reduction Plan Activities
USPEAs Health Assessment Document for Diesel Exhaust -
Health Assessment Document for Diesel Engine Exhaust | National Center for Environmental Assessment | US EPA
 

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I was looking into the smoke rules in the state of new Jersey and stumbled over this crock. So how many tons a day did they feed to a rat? Kiss my :butt: you ignerant tree hugging politicians. :rof


TOXIC EMISSIONS

A recently released final report by the USEPA listed diesel exhaust as a probable cause of lung cancer. It is also associated with increase risk of asthma and other breathing related illnesses. Both USEPA and the California Air Resources Board have declared diesel exhaust a toxic substance.

Diesel soot particles, and the chemicals that adhere to them (such as benzene) are the cause of the problem. Sulfur in the fuel helps to form soot particles. Too much fuel causes the large black particles we can see. The large particles, called PM10 (particulate matter, over 10 microns in diameter), once ingested, can be mostly expelled from the body, when caught by your natural air filtration system. Small particles, called PM2.5 (2.5 microns or less in diameter), can become trapped in the body, and cannot be expelled. In general, particulates cause breathing problems, and the associated chemicals may cause other physiologic illnesses. Diesel engines also produce nitrogen oxides, which help to form ozone, which is also a contributing cause of breathing illnesses.

The risk of health effects include: increased incidence of asthma, bronchitis, and other breathing related illnesses, increased emergency room visits, and increased mortality. Risk increases with increased exposure to diesel exhaust.

For more information on diesel exhaust and health issues, follow these links:

Asthma - NJDEP Air Toxics in New Jersey - Asthma Information
Diesel emissions - NJDEP Air Toxics in New Jersey - Diesel Emissions & the 1999 NATA Results
CARB Diesel Toxic Assessment - http://www.arb.ca.gov/toxics/summary/dieselex/dieselex.htm
California's Diesel Risk Reduction Program - Background Material: California's Diesel Risk Reduction Plan Activities
USPEAs Health Assessment Document for Diesel Exhaust -
Health Assessment Document for Diesel Engine Exhaust | National Center for Environmental Assessment | US EPA
This is more American"Greenpreaching". Even the Euros don't buy into this crap. They give everyone driving a diesel a $1.50/gallon break in fuel charge. They also support nuclear energy. We need to make some noise around here. Too bad the two candidates coming up don't offer much hope.:CRY:
 

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Sounds reminiscent of the arguments about whether lead in leaded gasoline was a health risk. Or when high sulphur was perported to be linked to acid rain. Or when mercury emissions from coal plants were linked to retardation.

Having said that, I'll note that carbon monoxide from a gas engine will kill you dead. Sit in a garage with a diesel, and MAN you'll have the headache of your life, but you'll be alive to enjoy it! Do that regularly, maybe it'll give you cancer, but at least you will know the risk.
 

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they blame pretty much anything for cancer these days... or global warming... or...
 

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My wife caauses cancer but i still keep her!!!:rof:rof:rof
 

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My wife caauses cancer but i still keep her!!!:rof:rof:rof

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You had better hope shes not reading over your shoulder, you might have something worse to worry about than cancer...

A pissed off wife!
 

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it is a proven fact that diesel particulates are not healthy for a living bodys system, im doing my best at killing as many rats as possible with skinny pedal down and marlboro between my lips.

eat healthy, exercise daily and die anyway:rof:rof
 

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Everything causes cancer these days. Oh well
 

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throttle down, third gear and dump the clutch....give em somethin to cry about:peelout
 

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Sounds reminiscent of when high sulphur was perported to be linked to acid rain.
not to hijack, but what ever happened to acid rain? I don't think I've heard anything about it in decades? Was it a bunch of bunk like global warming - which is now being discussed as "climate change" BS!
 

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If you cram enough mineral,element or chemical into any living organism you can create health issues.......anytime I read one of those studies , I read it with skepticism.
They used to say eggs were bad for you,then they weren't....then they were......then they weren't....:lol3:
 
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not to hijack, but what ever happened to acid rain? I don't think I've heard anything about it in decades? Was it a bunch of bunk like global warming - which is now being discussed as "climate change" BS!
And where do you think most of the acid rain came from? Catalytic Converters.

OK Tree Hugger. . .Make up your mind
 
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If you cram enough mineral,element or chemical into any living organism you can create health issues.......anytime I read one of those studies , I read it with skepticism.
They used to say eggs were bad for you,then they weren't....then they were......then they weren't....:lol3:
Yeah Tim

I remember Sacren (SP) They said the artifical sweetener caused cancer. After they fed 5 pounds a day into a rat. That's what I was eluding to in the beginning.

Wish I had a PHD. I'd go to Washington and sell them on more powerful diesels in pickups with no emmisions. :rof
 

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the way i look at it, i'd rather die young and havin fun, than to die old with someone wiping my a$$ for me.
as for the rest of pansy america out there, isn't shoving diesel fumes and everything else you deem dangerous:rof down a rats throat considered animal abuse. bunch of effing hypocrits
 
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the way i look at it, i'd rather die young and havin fun, than to die old with someone wiping my a$$ for me.
as for the rest of pansy america out there, isn't shoving diesel fumes and everything else you deem dangerous:rof down a rats throat considered animal abuse. bunch of effing hypocrits

Amen Brother

We're in a Catch 22. The minority get's their wish every time.

I've been saying this over and over. It's the tree hugging liberals doing this. I sometimes think they do it because they believe everything they hear. All coming from someone who has an ego and wants to get some attention. I don't have a problem with cleaning up the environment. But they're out of control.

I have a College Ed. It amazes me how different the kids are today than what we were. We didn't have the wild parties and we were all banned together in a common way of thinking. It was that way in other coleges as well. Some were bizzar (Berkley Ugh). But if you stand back and look at the people in their 60's, they are completely different and in most cases, more realistic in their approachs.

Todey, they're Flippin Paranoids

:rant:
 
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