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I've had this stuff sitting around waiting for the right time to do the install. Today with temps in the 70's was the perfect time.
Here's all the goodies:
Shibby Grid Heater Delete
Shibby Stage 1 Intake & TV delete (this will give me a stealth intake setup)
Shibby Boost tube
Also I'll be installing the Pyro for my PMT. Finally


Stock before surgery



Surgery has begun


Here's Liz modeling the latest in helper attire. With her is my Christmas gift finally put to use.


My working table


The doctor is ready to operate.


Stock intake sans EGR


Intake and EGR off


Grid heater looked really clean. The EGR's been unplugged for most of the 37,000 miles on the clock.


Intake off. Here the stock boost tube.


Hey Shibby. Ever notice how the TV delete and Stage 1 are not a smooth connection. Someday in the future I may do some port work on the area to clean it up.


The Lovely Liz Preparing the ziplocks for injector tubes


This pic really shows off how clean and shiney my grid heater was.


Very little soot in my intake. Decided not to do any cleaning.



Now Aint that Purdy?? I installed the Boost Tube prior to dropping the intke into place. I used Silicone spray to get the boots to slip on easy.



Starting to look stock again.

Except for the Throttle Valve delete it all looks stock.


I primed and primed and primed until she finally came to life.

Once I knew that all worked it was time to move on to the Pyro install. Here I am drilling using a right angle air drill and a shop vacuum to pull out the debri.


Liz got a hold of the camera. Some say this is my better side.


Pyro installed. Here's the plugged up Turbo CCV hose in the pic.


A better view of the installed pyro.


The whole job took me 6 hours from the time I started setting up tables to jumping into the shower to go out for dinner. I'm glad I didn't wait for my son to help my. This is pretty much a one person job. Very tight quarters in there. Liz was helpful in getting parts & tools from the table for me.

Impressions- OMG I can really hear that thing Breath! When I lay my foot into it, it flat gets up and goes. Seat of the pants indicates much better response and more air into the mouth of my motor. I'll have to get used to having a real pyro that is showing real time temps.

I made good use of BroncoHounds Excellent write up in the tech articles section as well as some other sites quick install info for the Pyro. They really helped me over the hurdles and I felt really comfortable taking on this job with such good info at hand.

Being a CF member pays off. :party018:
 

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Great pics, looks like you two had a fun day. My only concern is the silicone spray on the boost tube. Made for easy on, but but make for easy off, and you sitting on the side of the I 15. I borrowed the wifes hairspray. Slips on easy, then super death grip holding it on. Just my 2 cents.
 

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D2B nice write up! If my memory from your threads serves me right, you had been doing the song and dance to keep your warranty in tact, is this still correct? I have been considering a pyro install but too afraid, just because of warranty/service issues. Did you finally say screw it or what? :party018:
 

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A pyro will not void the warranty. I dont think even a really crappy dealer would do that, would they ?
 

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I honestly don't know but I could see how drilling and tapping a manifold would make some of these service managers squirm. That's just me though, I'll be interested to hear what other people's experiences have been with it...
 

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D2B nice write up! If my memory from your threads serves me right, you had been doing the song and dance to keep your warranty in tact, is this still correct? I have been considering a pyro install but too afraid, just because of warranty/service issues. Did you finally say screw it or what? :party018:
I'm past my base warranty. Now at 37K. Now into my Extended warranty period.

I'm comfortable that my motor will survive for many years.
I was concerned about drilling the manifold. I was looking at all kinds of ways to get around that. I just finally bit the bullet and did the deed. It really wasn't very painful at all. Using the vacuum and the right angle drill made the task simple and I felt good that all the debri was sucked out. That part of the manifold is seriously thick. I don't forsee any cracks.:thumbsup:

A pyro will not void the warranty. I dont think even a really crappy dealer would do that, would they ?
I don't believe they would either. However, having a pyro is a clear indicator of a possible tuner or other mods. It MAY cause a dealer to dig deeper in the ECM for tuner tracks. Tracks that they wouldn't bother with without it.
I recall reading in the State of California Diesel Smog test online training to look beyond a pyro.

Clearly I installed the pyro due to running my tuner. I was pushing some pretty heavy winds a week ago. So bad that I got 7mpg towing into that wind. I was running around 30 psi of boost for much of the trip. Who knows what my temps were.:S:
 

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good right up i would have liked to see the gheater delete by the old grid heater to see the dif in the to i modified my stock grid header . but good job bud . P.S. i dont know how you cept your engine bay so clean i try and keep mine clean but it is nasty
 

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good right up i would have liked to see the gheater delete by the old grid heater to see the dif in the to i modified my stock grid header . but good job bud . P.S. i dont know how you cept your engine bay so clean i try and keep mine clean but it is nasty
There's some threads out there with pics of the GH & GHD side by side. The stock GH is meant to be the same opening as the stock intake. With the bigger intake the GHD is must IMHO. Clean. :hehe: I live in the desert. We don't rust. All our rubber pieces dry out though.:doh:

As a rule I always wash my projects before working on them. Bikes, cars trucks, whatever. It drives my nuts to see pics of guys with open motors covered in dirt and grime. All that is just begging to drop into the motor.:spank:
 

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Yeah, Tom I have noted that they don't match up perfect. As you said, a little port work will go a long way to improving that interface.

Most of the people that purchase my Stage-I intake are still running a throttle valve, which does match up pretty well. The TVD is port matched to my Stage-II intake, to give you an idea of how much bigger it is.
 

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good right up i would have liked to see the gheater delete by the old grid heater to see the dif in the to i modified my stock grid header .
The grids were removed from this one, but you can see the difference in the housings even.
 

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I'm past my base warranty. Now at 37K. Now into my Extended warranty period.

having a pyro is a clear indicator of a possible tuner or other mods. It MAY cause a dealer to dig deeper in the ECM for tuner tracks. Tracks that they wouldn't bother with without it.

Fair enough, that's what I was assuming as well. Hadn't had any reason to take mine in since the deletes but it is still nice to know I could maybe get away with it if I had to. In regards to the manifold it's funny how many people say that it is a lot thicker than they thought it would be...:hehe:
 

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Thank you for taking the time and effort to post such an interesting and informative thread.:thumbsup:

Now, if I only knew what it all meant.:confused013::hehe::rof
 

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The grids were removed from this one, but you can see the difference in the housings even.
thanks bud i was curious i took and machined mine out when i did my head gasket i wish i had polished it up so it could be perdy like yours whil i had it off ive got a few of you parts you do some nice work bro thanks:thumbsup:
 

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Yes this has been very nice thanks for the great details!!! How exactly does the grid heater delete affect cold weather area starting? Does upgrading the intercooler make that much of a dif if you don't upgrade the horn and tubes? I have two cents on the warrenty though, had my truck in about two years ago to a dealerit was throwing the turbo clean out code,( which had a tech service bullitain for upgrade). At the time I had about 12000m on the truck, had my banks cai and a power pup, returned truck to stock on a thursday and took to dealer, they called me on the next tuesday and said the turbo was dusted because of the aftermarket air intake....I knew it was bul because the truck had never been off the pavement, then they said the 1"hose on the intake was broken...the cai had only been on for a month. So I was out of town so I called up a friend that is a mechanic and has a tow company, he went down and looked, the 1" line had been cut with a pocket knife!! I had him yank my truck out of the dealers shop and take it to a neiboring town where they replaced the hose and did the TSB turbo clean out for free! When he took the truck from the dealer they said they were going to void the warranty...they did, well put a restriction on it anyway so now if my truck were to go in for work it has to be approved...funny thing is though I've bought 2 bully dogs and a S&B intake from another dealer that built my tanny in my 07 to handle the bullydog!!! So I definatly say it verys from dealer to dealer as to what they think about aftermarket parts.
 

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Yes this has been very nice thanks for the great details!!! How exactly does the grid heater delete affect cold weather area starting? Does upgrading the intercooler make that much of a dif if you don't upgrade the horn and tubes? I have two cents on the warrenty though, had my truck in about two years ago to a dealerit was throwing the turbo clean out code,( which had a tech service bullitain for upgrade). At the time I had about 12000m on the truck, had my banks cai and a power pup, returned truck to stock on a thursday and took to dealer, they called me on the next tuesday and said the turbo was dusted because of the aftermarket air intake....I knew it was bul because the truck had never been off the pavement, then they said the 1"hose on the intake was broken...the cai had only been on for a month. So I was out of town so I called up a friend that is a mechanic and has a tow company, he went down and looked, the 1" line had been cut with a pocket knife!! I had him yank my truck out of the dealers shop and take it to a neiboring town where they replaced the hose and did the TSB turbo clean out for free! When he took the truck from the dealer they said they were going to void the warranty...they did, well put a restriction on it anyway so now if my truck were to go in for work it has to be approved...funny thing is though I've bought 2 bully dogs and a S&B intake from another dealer that built my tanny in my 07 to handle the bullydog!!! So I definatly say it verys from dealer to dealer as to what they think about aftermarket parts.
i was told they dont make a noticable dif if you dont do all your air mods at once thats a lie i felt a noticable dif i instaled my intercooler first then boost tube and air horn and later when i did my head gasket and studs i modified my grid heater and these are all must do mods in my book :thumbsup:
And thats som bs bout the dealer my thoughts are stay away :rof my dealer void my warenty for a SnB intake i had on it like 60,000 miles ago
 

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Cool thanks for the input, still trying to decide on which intercooler, how's that BD treating you? Should have my FASS on next week so then I can save up for the IC
 

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Cool thanks for the input, still trying to decide on which intercooler, how's that BD treating you? Should have my FASS on next week so then I can save up for the IC
i love my BD its a tight fit though theres a Bd in the clasifieds right now
 

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Finally got some freeway time on the truck since the installs.
My EGT's are showing about 800* cruising.
IAT is running about 15* over ambient.
So far so good. Next weekend I'll be towing. That is where I'll get to see the numbers where it counts. :thumbsup:
 

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Finally got some freeway time on the truck since the installs.
My EGT's are showing about 800* cruising.
IAT is running about 15* over ambient.
So far so good. Next weekend I'll be towing. That is where I'll get to see the numbers where it counts. :thumbsup:
good deal bro :thumbsup: You have always had very detialed threads
 
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