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I'd ask for a discount or partial refund and see whether or not I got it. Doesn't hurt to ask.

Geolander At and Nito Terra Grapplers have both worked well and stayed balanced. Geolanders wouldn't track straight and wandered horribly until I read to let some air out. They ran beautifully afterward.
 

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Tires are a consumable. No warranty they told me. I rotated them @ 5,000.

Maybe I just got some bad tires but come on...10,000 miles and shot?
It's not just our Firestones. The Goodyears on my wife's last 2 leases were showing steel at 15,000 miles.
 

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I have the stock Firestone Transforce on my bone stock 2018 2500 Cummins. I stay on the pressure regularly and rotate every 5k. 17k on the truck and the tires are shot. Getting new ones this week. Always liked BF Goodrich on my other trucks.
 

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It's not just our Firestones. The Goodyears on my wife's last 2 leases were showing steel at 15,000 miles.
That's ridiculous. The manufacturer rates the tires at xx lifetime mileage. If there is no uneven wear for example bad alignment or under/over inflated you should be able to get some credit or warranty on n exchange. I know that Discount Tire does things like that to keep customers coming back.

Not wear related but I was getting my 78 280Z going and wanted tires mounted onto some wheels that currently had old dry rotted tires. The manager said "bring them in. We'll take care of it". I left the wheels and they unmounted the tires, made sure the wheels would balance and gave them back to you. Said to come get the tires when ready after the wheels were cleaned up. Another chain wanted $30 each and the local indy wanted $20. Neither was willing to give credit toward the new installation if/when I did come back.

Guess where I bought the tires.
 

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I’m at 67k km on my factory transforce. They won’t do the winter but if I had a second set of rims they would make another summer.
 

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I’d consider yourself lucky that you could get between 20-30K on these tires if you actually haul and tow anywhere close to what these trucks are designed for. Only way I got 33K was by running a different set during the winter, and then stretching the Firestones farther than any other tires I’ve owned in terms of wear. (Always ran full recommended PSI too)

Many people are pulling these off their trucks immediately to upgrade wheels and tires, so I have bought three sets of new take off wheels and tires for $5-700... when you consider that cost at 20-30K miles it’s very reasonable since you can sell the (Black, not chrome) wheels for $4-600 once you are done with the tires.

I actually think they ride decent, and are plenty of traction for summer driving, but wouldn’t risk any amount of winter driving on them, unless you’re a flat lander.


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Ive read it and been told it. And only got 10,500 miles out of my OEM 285/60R20 Firestone Piece of Crap Transforce AT’s as living, down to the wear bars, proof.
I ever said they were made to be dangerous, I said they weren’t made of the same compounds as a tire store tire where they have to provide a wear guarantee.
You must have got a bad batch...shot @ 10K miles? I cut the sidewall on one of the OEM AT's @ 40K, could have gone another 10K safely but I opted for a new set of Michelins rather than replacing just one of the OEM's. Should have done it sooner, as the Michelins are a much superior tire re traction, ride, etc.
 

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Many people are pulling these off their trucks immediately to upgrade wheels and tires, so I have bought three sets of new take off wheels and tires for $5-700...
Upgrade? Changing to something aftermarket isn't synonymous with upgrading.
In the case of Transforce tires, yes, all but the cheapest Chinese tires probably are an upgrade, but the wheels?!?
 

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Try Transforce AT2s. I have them on mine and they are the best tires yet. Supposed to be a much better compound than the ATs. My Ram started with Nexan Rodians, which I had to replace at 35k miles with Transforce HTs. The HTs lasted 60k miles, but they didn't do well off highway. So I bought AT2s, have about 15k on them now and they still look new. Traction off road is much better.
 

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You must have got a bad batch...shot @ 10K miles? I cut the sidewall on one of the OEM AT's @ 40K, could have gone another 10K safely but I opted for a new set of Michelins rather than replacing just one of the OEM's. Should have done it sooner, as the Michelins are a much superior tire re traction, ride, etc.
It blew me away how fast they went. It’s like it was happening while I was asleep!

I run new Michelin take offs now. 2 sets already. Buy them cheap and Last 3 years. I run different tires in winter.

Like riding on a cloud!
 

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OEM tires are made for the new vehicle manufacturer’s specifically for looks and not longevity. They are not the same tires you’ll buy, same brand, from the tire store. Components are different.
I've been tire tech/lube tech/mechanic for 15 years and can confirm that yes this IS in fact true. Most manufacturers will put low tread life tires on new vehicles, FROM factory. Yes it is a different tire than what you'd typically purchase for your car or truck, as you'd likely not put the same tire, with the same tread life on you car, if they wore down that fast. I know I wouldn't. They key is looking at the specifics of the ratings....every tire has them, I've always been told, even look at Costco brand tires. You'll go get a quote and give your tire size and what not and even the exact tire you want, and they will sell you a lower speed rated tire, made at a different factory, with different tread life than what you ask for. How the hell do people think they sell their tires so cheap??

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I'm not sure if one of the above posters had better tires on his truck or not, but as a person who's changed hundreds and hundreds of tires over his career, yes, manufacturers will put a new, low quality tire on a new car that has low to little tread life or wear rating, with the intended purpose of selling you more later.
 

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Upgrade? Changing to something aftermarket isn't synonymous with upgrading.

In the case of Transforce tires, yes, all but the cheapest Chinese tires probably are an upgrade, but the wheels?!?


Agreed. Which is why I bought so many sets of them over the last 3 years. Although there are definitely OEM wheels that just don’t look good on certain trim levels. Didn’t think I’d find an aftermarket set that I liked, was affordable, and was rated at least as high as OEM. I ended up looking for a wider set of 18s so I could run 305/65 Load F 128Q “12 ply” 80 PSI Ridge Grapplers, and got lucky by finding an awesome deal on a Black Rhino set that is up to the task.
(I still run OEM 20s for my winter set)

A lot of people are motivated by appearance only. The guy at the tire shop said “appearance is everything...”. And then they don’t keep in mind any of the load ratings while selling you something.


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A lot of people are motivated by appearance only. The guy at the tire shop said “appearance is everything...”. And then they don’t keep in mind any of the load ratings while selling you something.
That's part of the beauty, so to speak, of OE wheels; so many change them out to something "different" that the OE wheels almost become different.

As an added bonus, they have been extensively tested, have all the correct dimensions, and are generally cheap to buy.

Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.
 

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Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.

I agree that the majority of aftermarket options are hideous. At least there are options to “make your truck yours” I guess... I know there are plenty of people out there that wouldn’t agree with the set up on my rig, but it serves me well and that’s it’s purpose, not impressing people that only judge a book by its cover... life is too short to worry about that.




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That's part of the beauty, so to speak, of OE wheels; so many change them out to something "different" that the OE wheels almost become different.



As an added bonus, they have been extensively tested, have all the correct dimensions, and are generally cheap to buy.



Appearance? Well, that's highly subjective. I certainly don't like the looks of all OE wheels, but on the other hand, quite a few of the aftermarket offerings are hideous, I think.


I prefer most oem rims on the higher trimmed vehicles. Aftermarket rims are everywhere and like you said are less different than having oem.
 

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I have 30,000 miles on my 2018 Ram Bighorn 3500 CC SB HO. 5000 miles of that has been towing a 15000 lb fifth wheel. The tires are holding up fine. I rotate them every 10000 miles. They probably have another 20,000 miles on them. Firestone Transforce AT’s. I’ve been pretty satisfied with their towing performance. Been running around 99 psi when they are hot from towing which is good. The truck is about 300 lbs over GVWR.
 

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I got 10,000 miles on my factory set of Nexens and have one right now with the belt separating. Both inner dualls are wearing unevenly. I have one trip with a 20k fifth wheel and another trip next weekend. She's going in Monday for a new set of Michelins. Irritating to have to replace 6 tires at 10,000 miles but I can't risk a failure with 44' of fifth wheel behind me.
 
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