[gedo76]

I dunno. I will ask when I send this to them.


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[BlueIceCummins]

Looking forward to the next update. Thanks for keeping on top of this, gentlemen.

 

[Repins 3]

It sure would solidify Ram owners, if Ram would do a CP4 to CP3 swap on their own. Tell everyone with a 4 to take their trucks to a local dealer to have them swapped.

This would also be some serious positive publicity that Ram and dealerships would be able to tout over their GM and Ford Competition.

They may even get some folks to swap brands over this.

Respectfully
Chris


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[brutal]

The new pump is a CP-ISB21.

Still hopeful for a swap. Given the stupid used truck prices right now, I may honestly consider trading for a new factory order 21 if they don't.

 

[Repins 3]

@brutal ; , looking at the cost of everything and crunching numbers, wouldn’t it be cheaper and easier for ya to replace the 4 with a 3?

Looking about 4,500.00 for entire swap. At least this is the cost from my mechanic to include labor... I don’t know what your mechanic would charge.

I love this truck of mine and will make the conversion happen.

What say you?

Boy o boy, you are right about the price of trucks... I owed 10k on my 2017 Silverado 1500 LT2, 4x4, Crew cab, standard bed with 37k miles and the Kia dealership in Columbus Ga have me 42k for the truck. I paid 45k for the dang truck and bought it with 150 miles on it.

I can tell you “Dealerships are Hungry”!

Yup.... I said 42k for my truck.... The truck blue booked at 35k for excellent condition.

I can honestly tell you dealerships here “Columbus Ga) are fighting over you if you have a nice 4x4 truck.

When we bought my Ram 3500, we decided to keep the Silverado because we knew we would not get as much with a trade and sold it after the purchase... Prolly the single smartest decision we made

We took the cash we made off the truck and rolled it into the payment of the Ram and paid off the Ram. We have 1400.00 left over to use after pay off and threw that into savings

If you go into the dealership right now with a trade, I don’t believe you will maximize your deal ($) you will get from them unlike going into the dealership and selling outright.

BTW, if the swap doesn’t happen, with what I have saved and the addition from above, I’m 500.00 short on having the $ for the swap and the truck only has 14,268 miles on her, (knocking on my head).

Just my dimes worth of commentary and advice. I hope ya have a great day.

Respectfully
Chris


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[brutal]

If it costs me $5K to trade or $5K for a CP3 swap, the only thing that's a negative is the time I have into the mods on the truck. I only have 4800 miles on it right now coming up on a year in 2 weeks.

I'm not worried about failure, that's what warranty and Maxcare are for. I religiously keep receipts and pics of the pump cert tags, etc. so I'm not paying out of pocket even with a warranty denial. I am concerned about being broken down in the middle of BFE with my rig.

The 21 does have the digital mirror and I might opt for a Night edition that wasn't available when I ordered Jan 20 (though still on the fence). I love the look, but fear the long term performance without spending $4K on PPE that will not last the lifetime of my likely ownership.

 

[CO4Lo]

It will be interesting to see what "solution" the Chrysler folks come up with. I would love to have that digital mirror as well, but I bet it will cost me way more to trade my 2020 (900 miles) and get a 2011 than $5K.

 

[tduenas4520]

Any changes on this? Dad bought a 2019 Ram about a year ago, 7K miles. It's his pride and joy, would hate to see him stranded on the side of the road with a 10K bill waiting for him.

 

[99ls1tj]

Any changes on this? Dad bought a 2019 Ram about a year ago, 7K miles. It's his pride and joy, would hate to see him stranded on the side of the road with a 10K bill waiting for him.

I bought my '19 as my retirement / forever truck. Now I feel like I'm driving around in a ticking time bomb. I cannot afford another truck unless I downsize greatly. I keep waiting for some positive news from FCA, but it's not looking good.

 

[tduenas4520]

I bought my '19 as my retirement / forever truck. Now I feel like I'm driving around in a ticking time bomb. I cannot afford another truck unless I downsize greatly. I keep waiting for some positive news from FCA, but it's not looking good.

The fact that FCA is working on something is at least hopeful news to me. I started reading about the 4.2 issues months after he purchased.

 

[Builderdude]

Would be nice to see something regarding replacement of these 2019-20 pumps. The fact they no longer use them in the lineup tells me they are fully aware of the potential failures.
😣

 

[Stone989]

I bought my '19 as my retirement / forever truck. Now I feel like I'm driving around in a ticking time bomb. I cannot afford another truck unless I downsize greatly. I keep waiting for some positive news from FCA, but it's not looking good.

I’m in the same boat as you . It’s hard to even enjoy the truck anymore. Also, it seems like the online chatter about the pumps has died down .

 

[brutal]

Any changes on this? Dad bought a 2019 Ram about a year ago, 7K miles. It's his pride and joy, would hate to see him stranded on the side of the road with a 10K bill waiting for him.

RamCares responded to a query on another forum last week, no update.

 

[alangley]

The post on HDRams was dated Jan 7 and there has been no update just 40 some pages of chatter.
I phoned fca Canada yesterday, guy had no clue what I was even taking about when it came to an injection pump. I’m debating on just getting rid of my 19. Used trucks are going for a crazy amount right now anyways.

 

[Rafter L Farms]

While keeping in mind that I am currently driving a 2020 model with a CP4....if the injection pump is the only concern you have on the truck, then why not wait for the warranty to expire and do a CP3 swap? I understand that some users rely on these trucks daily to make a living, and for them this truly is a debacle. Regardless, who can say that even a 2022 model vehicle from whichever manufacturer isn’t going to have bigger issues than this? I 💯 wish my truck didn’t have the CP4, but it is what it is. All you can do at this point is make the best of it. IMO, trading the devil you know for one you don’t could cause bigger issues.

 

[alangley]

Agreed, Im a gambling man I’ll let it ride and not give it a second thought but I could prob get $80000CAD if I sell privately in this market, I only paid 76plus tax and extras. Interest rates are little better on the 21’s as well. I’ve made money on vehicles before just takes the right buyer right time

 

[sethster]

I sold out of my truck last Tuesday. Posted it on Auto Trader, and a dealer contacted me next morning and it was gone. Less than a dollar a mile loss in the truck, so cheap "rental" cost in my opinion. It was a beautiful truck, but I just didn't enjoy it like I did my previous. The lack of a manual transmission, sound or maybe a combination of the two? Not sure. That and the potential time bomb of an injection pump sealed the deal for me. I'll continue to browse around the forum and provide input! Maybe I'll end up in a diesel again someday, however it will most definitely be an older one!