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Ok. all of these different types of electronic things for this truck are confusing me. Could someone give me a simple explanation of the different types of them?

What is a Box?
What is a Programmer?
What is a Downloader?
What is a Pressure Box?
What is a Timing Box?

That kinda thing. I have an X2 now, what does that do? What types stack together?

And please don't tell me just to get a Smarty cause its the best, that doesn't help me a bit.
 

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a pressure box does just that , increases your rail pressure, like the mp8.the edge juice with att. is mostly a timing and duration under the hood box, that gets plugged into your obd2 under your steering wheel. the smarty which is hands down the best, is a programmer, hooks up to your obd and i think makes changes to your ecm.i never really heard someone say they dislike the smarty before, im sure your having a problem, cause i have a friend with the predetor, and he ditched it for the smarty. good difference.
 

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a box would be something you plug in and stays on the truck.
a programmer would be something that plugs in to the odb port and alters or reprograms the factory ecm and then is unplugged. pressure box alters fuel pressure. a timming box alters timming and then there is also durration that can be altered. changing these three parameters is how more power is achieved on a diesel engine. choosing the right programmer or box takes a little research as to what would work best for your application
 

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What is a Box?
What is a Programmer?
What is a Downloader?
What is a Pressure Box?
What is a Timing Box?
Box = module that you plug directly into your truck and tinkers with various fueling parameters. EG. TST

Programmer = something you plug into your truck's OBD port and reflash the ecm. Tinkers with various fueling parameters and other engine behaviors. eg. smarty

Pressure box = a box that increases pressure across the fuel rail, eg. TS mp8

Timing box = a box that exclusively advances fuel timing.


Now you can stack a module on a module or a programmer on a module so long as they do not do the same function, eg. I would not stack edge juice with a bullydog on a common rail since both do timing and you could damage you head gasket. But a Juice and a TS mp8 stack well, on a 04.5+ common rail, since the mp8 does pressure and the juice does timing and duration.

Hope this helps some.:thumbsup
 

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a smarty is hands down the best thing out there... and stack it with a mp-8 and you will looooooooooooove your truck!!!:hyper:
 

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OK. What is a downloader? The Bully Dog TD is advertised as a downloader.

What kind of box is my Quad X2?

Will the Edge Juice stack with my X2? The X2 plugs into the MAP sensor, temp sensor, and someother sensor by the intake horn. Where do the Edge juice and TS MP8 plug into?
 

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OK. What is a downloader? The Bully Dog TD is advertised as a downloader.

What kind of box is my Quad X2?

Will the Edge Juice stack with my X2? The X2 plugs into the MAP sensor, temp sensor, and someother sensor by the intake horn. Where do the Edge juice and TS MP8 plug into?
Downloader = programmer

The TS mp8 plugs into the rail pressure sensor (near intake horn) and map. The Juice plugs into the map, service bus port (or something like that) and injectors connections on the 04.5-05.
 

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Ahh. Ok. Cool guys. Thanks a bunch.
 

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get the smarty. i liked it better than the juice stacked with the mp8. i cant believe someone said they dont like that smarty....thats freaking crazy!
 

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some truck like other toys!!! Most like dem smarty's though!!:thumbsup
 

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some truck like other toys!!! Most like dem smarty's though!!:thumbsup
i'll agree with that. just never heard of anyone not likeing the smarty before!
 

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i'll agree with that. just never heard of anyone not likeing the smarty before!
I have heard it before. Hey whatever floats your boat, you know. :thumbsup
 

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I believe he can send his Quad X2 in to get reflashed to a pressure only box (or on thier site). Then he can stack a programmer that does timing and duration. Just have to play w/ the different setting that works for you and the truck.
 
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