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c'boyprchr

Discussion Starter · Nov 1, 2013

Guess I was thinking my EJWA would be like cactus juice, it was more like apple juice. Don't get me wrong, I like the extra power, just anywhere close to where I want to be. So here are my thoughts. Go ahead and upgrade turbo and injectors. When my clutch starts slipping replace it then. (Won't. Be long I'm sure). I want to take a stab at doing all of it myself. Want to go with a killer b turbo. Question is; how much stuff do I have to change to go with that turbo?

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jlbayes

· #2 · Nov 1, 2013

shouldn't have to change much as long as you get the 2nd gen kit.

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Johnnysspaceship

· #3 · Nov 1, 2013

Injectors, Studs, springs, ic boots.

Might as well do rods, orings, deck the head.

jlbayes

· #4 · Nov 1, 2013

there is NO reason to pull the head if the gasket is not blown.

c'boyprchr

Discussion Starter · #5 · Nov 1, 2013

jlbayes said:
shouldn't have to change much as long as you get the 2nd gen kit.

So with the 2nd gen kit is it pretty much just an exchange or will I have to buy other stuff (for just the turbo)

jlbayes

· #6 · Nov 1, 2013

should be just a parts swap.

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Johnnysspaceship

· #7 · Nov 1, 2013

jlbayes said:
there is NO reason to pull the head if the gasket is not blown.

So says you.

If your doing studs n springs might as well while your in there. Decided to do it when mine was out and low n behold it was 3/1000 out. Got it decked n feel better about 60psi now. I did not have a blown head gasket.. N valve springs are way easier with it off too! What is it an extra hr or two to check it out?

jlbayes

· #8 · Nov 1, 2013

how long and and how many miles has the head been sealed from the factory? lets spend another $300 on o-ringing the head, surfacing the head, new spring and now studs. oh wait a gasket kit to seal it all back up. and all this on a perfectly good head that the gasket was not blown on.

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Johnnysspaceship

· #9 · Nov 1, 2013

He might be just fine.. Or he might blow it then have to do it all over again n be spending way more money.

I do all of everything to do with my truck myself and to me it's a no brainier to go in there. You see guys on the forum all the time.. " oh I blew my head gasket again." Then they get a new one, put the stock head bolts back on, no orings. Don't even check the bottom of the head with a flashlight n a straight edge. Turns out later on they had a warped head the whole time...

I'm just one a those do it right the first time kinda guys.

Ramitt

· #10 · Nov 1, 2013

My edge juice made decent power when stock. Way better than a completely stock truck!! Im running injectors now and its faster even. If you are gonna upgrade the turbo I would do studs since your spending the money. My buddy had 150's and silver bullet turbo and it wasnt long before he started seeping some coolant out the head.

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jlbayes

· #11 · Nov 1, 2013

Johnnysspaceship said:
He might be just fine.. Or he might blow it then have to do it all over again n be spending way more money.

I do all of everything to do with my truck myself and to me it's a no brainier to go in there. You see guys on the forum all the time.. " oh I blew my head gasket again." Then they get a new one, put the stock head bolts back on, no orings. Don't even check the bottom of the head with a flashlight n a straight edge. Turns out later on they had a warped head the whole time...

I'm just one a those do it right the first time kinda guys.

spending even more money on what?!? there is no price difference from pulling the head with a good gasket as opposed to a blown gasket!? you are going to do the all the same stuff regardless. :confused013: :doh:

:doh:

:banghead:

c'boyprchr

Discussion Starter · #12 · Nov 1, 2013

jlbayes said:
spending even more money on what?!? there is no price difference from pulling the head with a good gasket as opposed to a blown gasket!? you are going to do the all the same stuff regardless. :confused013:

If it's not broke don't fix it. Head studs can be done without breaking the seal.i know a shop in Lubbock (Bledsoe diesel performance) that does em that way every time with no trouble.

Johnnysspaceship

· #13 · Nov 1, 2013

c'boyprchr said:
If it's not broke don't fix it. Head studs can be done without breaking the seal.i know a shop in Lubbock (Bledsoe diesel performance) that does em that way every time with no trouble.

Ya it's easy to do em without taking the head. That's beside my point. If your gonna go all the way to there, why not check the head out? A little
More time, a little more money sure. But when you go to all that trouble anyway why not just go a little further to know its all perfect. Cheap insurance if you ask me.

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Johnnysspaceship

· #14 · Nov 1, 2013

jlbayes said:
spending even more money on what?!? there is no price difference from pulling the head with a good gasket as opposed to a blown gasket!? you are going to do the all the same stuff regardless. :confused013:

I was saying if you went all the way to studs and springs. Then blew the head gasket after. You'd have to go all the way back in there, when you were just a couple hours away already before.

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c'boyprchr

Discussion Starter · #15 · Nov 1, 2013

What are some thoughts on my op about waiting until my clutch starts going out before upgrading it?

cumminsdog

· #16 · Nov 1, 2013

you could...but you might be paying a tow bill or an accident. my clutch would slip with just the adrenaline but slipping isn't what killed it. The pilot bearing lost its needles. They built up on the clutch face and I couldn't release the clutch. Luckily there was no one at the stop sign and I was able to rip it out of gear before entering the intersection.

jmd025

· #17 · Nov 2, 2013

One of these days folks will realize the block is never flat. Go ahead, pull the head and deck it flat and drop it back on the untrue block, that probably mated with the untrue head perfectly . Lol

Quite silly to break the factory HG seal if its good

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cumminsdog

· #18 · Nov 2, 2013

Unless it to do P&P

Johnnysspaceship

· #19 · Nov 2, 2013

jmd025 said:
One of these days folks will realize the block is never flat. Go ahead, pull the head and deck it flat and drop it back on the untrue block, that probably mated with the untrue head perfectly . Lol

Quite silly to break the factory HG seal if its good

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My block was straight as straight can be. Head was 3/1000 out

N my head gasket was a little mauled up. There was coolant in the headbolt holes. Damn glad I did it.

jlbayes

· #20 · Nov 2, 2013

jmd025 said:
One of these days folks will realize the block is never flat. Go ahead, pull the head and deck it flat and drop it back on the untrue block, that probably mated with the untrue head perfectly . Lol

Quite silly to break the factory HG seal if its good
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or the fact of distortion when you torque the head.

Johnnysspaceship said:
My block was straight as straight can be. Head was 3/1000 out

N my head gasket was a little mauled up. There was coolant in the headbolt holes. Damn glad I did it.

had coolant in my bolt holes when i pulled my head as well. :confused013: gasket was compromised at an oil galley.

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