[12ccsb4x]

I had a thought today and I wanted to run it past you guys to see what you think. Since the EPA is having such a fit for us 1%'rs that actually delete, what if you want to run boidiesel that is a higher concentration than B20? Say I purchased and used a biodiesel refinery and started running B100 in my truck, I can't do that if the truck isn't deleted, the "soot" will clog the DPF and a standard regen won't keep the soot burnt off, so deleting is the only answer if you want to be "green". How would someone go about running this up the chain, so to speak, to let the EPA know? I would think that a letter or waiver basically certifying that you run a B30 or higher fuel say, 50% of the time would qualify you as being an alternative fuels vehicle requiring exhaust modifications? Just thinking out loud here...maybe we can get something going to get our delete tunes back.

 

[ocpoolguy]

Over my head but sounds good to me

 

[Js4fn]

why can't you run B100 in your truck ?

 

[Vatalaro]

I have thought about this a lot and it really comes down to the EPA being a money hungry POS and they really don't care about the environment. If they did then they would have come up with some way to use biodiesel instead of making our trucks use double the fossil fuel with no soot output. It's all politics and money and no common sense. And to the other guy I think you can only use a max of b20 because it does not work properly for regen and it cloggs the DPF . Deleted you can run whatever you want.

 

[12ccsb4x]

I have thought about this a lot and it really comes down to the EPA being a money hungry POS and they really don't care about the environment. If they did then they would have come up with some way to use biodiesel instead of making our trucks use double the fossil fuel with no soot output. It's all politics and money and no common sense. And to the other guy I think you can only use a max of b20 because it does not work properly for regen and it cloggs the DPF . Deleted you can run whatever you want.

I completely agree with you...unless we the people can figure out a way to be heard by the money hungry POS's on the hill...

 

[Vatalaro]

Unfortunatly I think we are fighting a losing battle. There are just way too many tree huggers in the world today that just don't understand the effect the emissions equipment has had on the environment "using double the fuel", so most likely diesels will try to be phased out because its a dying breed. All I've ever know is diesels since a kid. My old man has had a new diesel every four yrs since the first diesel pickup was built. It makes me sooo angry watching what they have done to the industry. I remember his first one with no turbo and he added a Ats turbo and a 4" exhaust, that was the good old days.

 

[cory1337]

Our 6.7L uses post injection to clean DPF, biodiesel has a tendency to coat the inside of the cylinders and blow by the rings and cause oil growth. A C&C has DEF injection which requires less EGR. Less EGR creates less soot for the DPF to need to clean, thus less diesel/biodiesel gets into the oil.

B100 has shown in lab tests to create less soot. I'd like to see a test using b100 in a stock truck, see how much oil growth happens compared to b5 or straight #2.

 

[Quint]

Good thoughts, doubt anything would come from it. By the time you got the approval you would have to buy a new truck.

I dont understand them either, a VW tdi wagon gets as good or roughly as good gas mileage as a prius WITHOUT having a huge freaking toxic waste battery to replace every 100k miles. The tdi's last 300k easy if not alot more yet you get a tax writeoff for having a prius and they are pushed by all kinds of tree huggers as being greener vehicles.

 

[12ccsb4x]

I really thought this topic would get some decent discussion...

 

[pronstar]

Alt fuel vehicles aren't exempt from federal smog laws. And soot is only one of the emissions that the government wants to control.


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