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Hauling hay today I had a rear air bag explode on my rear air ride system. On my second load it let lose. Sounded like a shot gun. Luckily I was going slow. I had my 25’ Gatormade trailer with 20 4x4 round bales. I don’t think it would have been much over 10-12k lbs. . Has anyone else had a bag to blow?
 

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Glad to read that you didn't have an air bag blow up on you, just an air spring in the rear.

Anyway, those 10-12K doesn't really mean much. How high was the tongue/pin weight?
Also, since it's not a factory system, it's hard to tell what is/was going on without knowing the original capacity of the system, age, etc.
 
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It is a factory air ride truck. I’ve pulled this load many times with other trucks and no problems. Just wondering if anyone else has ran into this.
 

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Sorry, I thought they didn't offer air suspension until '14. At least that's when I bought my first one, and for that reason.
 

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Air springs blow sometimes. It happens. Sometimes something nicks em or sometimes they let go off the bell.

Haven’t had any experience with the dodge one.
 

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It is a factory air ride truck. I’ve pulled this load many times with other trucks and no problems. Just wondering if anyone else has ran into this.
What year truck was it?
 

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That's what threw me off. It says 2004.5, but that can't be factory. I thought.
 

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Oops, missed that part. So it's somewhere between 2004.5 and '20 then.
The signature says 2004.5, and many post in the wrong thread. Guess we'll find out what it is eventually.
 
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I guess I should have posted this is a 2019 2500 with 7,000 miles on it. I just haven’t updated my signature, I’ve had more than 30 trucks and I forget to do it.
 

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Thanks. But the question about how much of those 10-12K were on the rear axle is still valid.
 

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Jimmy, I honestly couldn’t tell you the tongue weight. The trailer was loaded the same way I’ve loaded trailers for years. It’s just a bummer. I am really glad I wasn’t on the road at speed.
 

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Yeah, not going fast was definitely a good thing.
So does it look like the band clamp gave out, or did the rubber rupture?
 

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Last year in a different forum, a new 2019 owner posted about how his truck blew out the factory airbags. The rear suspension collapsed to the bump stops while driving on the freeway. There was a dip on the highway and the rear was unloaded and then came slamming down. The funny part is that prior to this happening, he posted the truck and 5th wheel combo and numerous people told him he was WAY overweight, needed a dually, etc. He was overweight by thousands. LOL. He said he had been towing for years and never had a problem. Then he said he only towed for short distances. Yada yada yada. Fiat/Peugeot replaced the airbags under warranty. He put the new/used/repaired truck up for sale and bought a 3500 dually.
 

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That makes sense, Zinga. If the system is already over pressured from an excessive load, then hits a spike with even higher pressures (driving over a bump, for example), something will have to give, eventually.

In this case, it sounds to me that those 20 bales might weight more than what tubehead thought. And if it's a bumper pull trailer, it could be even worse for the rear axle.
 

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When I googled the weight of a 4x4 bale of hay it said,.....1,000 to 1,200lbs each and he said he had 20 of them on there? Thats 20K to 24K (not counting trailer weight)....sure would like to know how much of that was Pin weight....they say for RV's 15 to 25% (trailer and cargo)....so with that being said that would be 3K to 6K of Pin weight!....so if he has a 2019 Ram 2500 4x4, short box his payload he can carry is between 2,300 and 3,400 lbs......I believe to say overloaded is an understatement......Please someone correct me if I'm wrong....but that's my SWAG.

Also to the OP If you want to get it fixed under warranty don't tell the dealer how much you had on there....as they will probably deny your warranty claim.
 

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Good conversation going on. A 4x4 roll of hay is quite a bit less than 1000#. You can move them around pretty easy by hand, rolling and shifting. I’m guessing closer to 500-600# each. The load don’t feel any heavier than the tractor and bailed on the trailer. I’m calling tomorrow to see what they say.
 
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From what I remember from the other forum and truck owner who blew his bags (LOL), he posted that the dealer knew that it was overloaded because the air suspension has a sensor that records it in the computer. I can't remember if it recorded a weight or some other value. Even though they knew he was overloaded and he bragged about it on a forum that Fiat monitors, the dealer still did a warranty repair.
 
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