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Thought i was saving money getting the BIO123 system. What they failed to tell me if you have more than 50k it could cause the build up in the cylinders to let loose and loss of compression is soon to follow. My tech buddy said he has seen it happen >>>Add oil Check fuel. That was a $15,000 dollar mistake. You can do what you want but i wouldn't recomend running 100%, no more than 20%. It takes alot of biofuel @ a savings of $1 per gallon to pay $15k. I'm sticking to lucas and 2cycle in my fuel. :$::$::$::$: Got a new truck that will never see that veggie oil again.
 

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that sucks to hear. any more details?
 

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i would hate to lose my cummins that way or anyway.
 

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My understanding is , if you have just a smige(the smallest amount of) Blow By comming out of your filler cap, 100% bio is not recomended. And or over 50,000 miles. My CTD went from a normal quart every 4000k to a quart every 200 miles. It still pulled anything i could put behind her, but she was retired till the rebuild is done. Sorry i dont have more
 

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That's the first I've ever heard of that. I've got buddy's that have been running it in their 100k+ engines (some started months ago, others started a few weeks ago) and so far none of them have had any problems. None of them have ever used oil either. Something else was wrong if you were using a quart every 4k miles in a bone stock motor with only 50k on it. Mine's got 165k on it and has seen 1600* for the last two years and still doesn't use oil. I don't know if I'd fully blame it on the bio. Sucks to hear either way though.
 

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What's the Bio123 system?
Bio
1: waste fuel getting small amouts of oil.
2: waste fuel finding free oil
3: waste a great truck

Bio is a waste. The price and pain to find a dealer to sell the supplies, the hundreds of restaurants you need to have any chance to keep up with your demands(if you drive alot) on fuel, and it's only going to get harder. The providers of lye methanol, ethanol are all catching on to the craze and in most if not all cases you will spend more of your time which =money than it's worth. Just what happend to me. No offense to anyone
 

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That's the first I've ever heard of that. I never saw any problems till about the 2000 gallon mark. I really hope it doesn't happen to anyone else. Keep a close eye on oil consumtion. My dad has old school 12v w/over 750,000k and loves the bio. I was told that it's most likely to happen in the 600 Cummins.
 

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(((Something else was wrong if you were using a quart every 4k miles in a bone stock motor with only 50k on it))).


The recomendation was over 50k, mine had 200k on it, 1 quart every 4k is to be expected with that mileage.
 

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I was told that it's most likely to happen in the 600 Cummins.
My CR has run B20 just fine. There are other people running B100 on their CR and it is going well. I think I am gonna go with BigBlue in there is something else wrong there too. Again sorry to hear about your motor.
 

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B20 is great since ultra low sulfer. I know a hundred people including myself using 20% just for fuel lubricant. I only have a problem with 100%
 

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First of all that sucks, secondly I have friend that have 200k+ on their trucks and run b100 all the time. I dont think the bio ruined your motor personally, where you home brewing?
 

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Wow. 200k is a lot. Then yeah, that kinda consumption ain't a problem. What mileage did you start running bio? I'm gonna brew my own as soon as I get out of college and get a place to do it.
 

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on this truck, I started running it with about 100k on it. on my previous I started running it with about 20k.
 

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Here's my 1 2 3

1. If I could find a place here in MD that was near me to buy B20, B50, B80, B100 I would without any hesitation.

2. If I could make my own I would run it without hesitation.

3. I would not run any "home brew" bio made by someone else.

There was another underlying issue to cause your problems IMO. I have 25,000 miles of bio ran through my truck from B2 to B100 and every where inbetween. I never even had to change my fuel filter any more than normal.
 

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$15k? Seems a little bit much.
 

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i have 200.000 miles on my 2001 dodge and i have ran multiple tanks of B100 and never had a problem.
 

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3. I would not run any "home brew" bio made by someone else.
I agree. Wouldn't trust any "jake leg" makin home brew for my goat.
 
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