Agreed, I got a set of 315/70/17 Hankook ATm's on my truck back in November, best tire I have ever driven with in winter. Night and day to the Firestone transforces that were on it before which couldn't handle light rain. Every day at the shop I'm reminded that most peoples vehicles/tires don't handle snow and ice like these do as I begin to skid past the service door at single digit speeds, even the brand new Rams with brand new 'AT's'.I have the Hankook atm's I just got back from 300 miles in the snow and drove in 2wd most of the time. Great traction in the snow, cleaned out well, and quiet. Everything I was looking for in a tire.