[WorkhorseDiesel]

In my area and in most of Texas, and I'm sure it's starting to happen now throughout the country in general, large biodiesel plants are turning to waste vegetable oil (WVO) from restaurants to blend with their biodiesel. Usually it's at a rate of about 80% WVO stock to 20% soy, cottonseed, etc. They've started going this route due to the $4.50+ per gallon cost of soybean oil. So, to make a long story short, I know that they've come in and acquired the rights to BUY the WVO from the McDonalds, Whataburger, and a few other restaurants. So, for those of you out there looking at investing a couple thousand dollars on a biodiesel setup, you might want to gauge the waste vegetable oil market in your area. In Texas, it is quickly going to dry up and will no longer be "FREE" or just a small fee as waste oil brokers have now seen the potential for a new commodity, namely waste vegetable oil, and are now putting a price per gallon on it, whether buying or selling it. I wouldnt' be surprised if it doesn't get in the ballpark of other biodiesel feedstocks in price just because it CAN be used in biodiesel production. I just wanted to point this out as this will start to be a HUGE consideration and problem for those making their own fuel. Hope this helps
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[Sparks280zt]

I have been preaching this for months on this site.

 

[febrocks]

I visited Pacific biodiesel at Carls Corner last year and they were already contacting local resturante for wvo. Resturante owners are starting to realize that their junk oil is worth something. It's hard enough to find oil supply, now you have to complete w/ the plants. And I use to give this stuff away myself.

Eugene

 

[elephantrider]

well, when can we start buying it and saving a few $ ?

 

[febrocks]

well, when can we start buying it and saving a few $ ?

I would try to find free oil first. There are still places that will give you oil for free.

Eugene

 

[DNCII]

It sure sounds like the price is going to be only marginally better than #2. So the story goes, find a great solution...and in no time somebody will come by and F up the whole thing.

Geez.

 

[kstinson]

Resturants are hard to get around my home in colorado, if they are under contract they already have people that claimed it. Healthcare is were i find i lot of unclaimed oil. They typically aren't under contract and pay good money for the oil to be picked up. Typically they will just give it away to you, and if you remain reliable they will actually appreciate it.

 

[Diesel_Nuts]

I have been watching this, and the consideration to switch to Bio is undecided. I know the Bio plants around me, are doing the same thing.

 

[Sparks280zt]

Guys, get with resturants and buy the oil from them first. Its going for .48 cent a gallon right now.

 

[terminaltsi]

my wife is the GM of a KFC/taco bell, so once i actually get my ctd, i'm all set!

 

[dezl]

Guys, get with resturants and buy the oil from them first. Its going for .48 cent a gallon right now.

Most resturants in my town are paying a company to come suck it up, they love that I will take it for free. I have a few places that drop it off for me.

 

[gonewelding]

It sure sounds like the price is going to be only marginally better than #2. So the story goes, find a great solution...and in no time somebody will come by and F up the whole thing.

Geez.

aint that the truth. i have a friend that grows soy bean and he was just complainin the other day how his soy additive(for lubricity) that he adds to his dodge is more than diesel per gallon.

 

[Sparks280zt]

Dezl, just a matter of time. Where do you live?

 

[TEX]

it is only a matter of time. if your thinking about the biodiesel thing have 2 or 3 good sources for your used oil. i have friends in the resturant biz so that helps. after a ton of research and reading ill be ordering my biopro 150 this week.

 

[dezl]

Dezl, just a matter of time. Where do you live?

Northern california, We have a hotel that drops us 150 gallons a week. Also a good friend owns a chinese resturaunt. Not to mention the guy who lives next door is some bigwig for micky D's. He drops so much oil I had to turn him away. All I do is fill his truck up and he keeps it coming. I highly doubt I will be running out of oil any time soon. As of right now I have 4 200 gallons tanks full in my back yard. LOL, its a crazy sight!!!!

Also I have another buddy who owns 2 hotels in my area, I havent even asked him yet.

 

[Hondo78]

Used oil and reactors

Hello all- New to your boards.

The used or free oil is not a closed market yet, depending upon your location.
I am on the San Francisco Peninsula and their are pleanty of sources that still pay to have it hauled away.

One detail to note:
Have any of you used a oil press for grape seed or palm tree seed oils? The presses are cheap and the Seed is a disposal product.
Texas seems to be getting more wine grape stock planted, and lots of palm trees same as California.

"Free" is as cheap as your time is to obtain it.

 

[94roller]

All is not lost yet. The up and coming hope in the world of biodiesel is algae. Algae yields 7-10 times more oil than the best crop. It doubles in mass daily and can be grown at home easily. Once you squeeze the oil out of it you use the same process as WVO or pure veggie oil to turn it into biodiesel. Plus you can ferment the leftover biomass to make bioethanol. I'm working on my own photo bioreactor to start mass producing algae for myself. It would be great to get the whole family using "free" fuel!

 

[Hondo78]

Non-Dino Diesel Fuels

I agree! Algae is a great example of growing your own carbon based fuels. Near here we have miles of grapes, palm trees, Lind seed, Rape Seed, (Canola oil), Turkeys, Cows, Whales, People. (Just watch your steaks oils drain after grilling).
Oil is the most abundant liquid next to water on this planet, let's burn it! In our (Cummins diesels)

Get a press and produce your own fuels, and stop supporting the middle east. (Just pay your road tax)

 

[ButterDiesel]

I have to agree there is free oil if your willing to look for it. I drive close to an hor for my oil but it titrates at 1 or less and is usually water free. I REFUSE to buy waste oil. I won't pay good money for garbage. Plus it screws over everyone else who's trying to SAVE money by running bio.

 

[Moparman]

I have to agree there is free oil if your willing to look for it. I drive close to an hor for my oil but it titrates at 1 or less and is usually water free. I REFUSE to buy waste oil. I won't pay good money for garbage. Plus it screws over everyone else who's trying to SAVE money by running bio.

What kind of oil do you get and where do you get it?