[RyeThomas]

Ok I know its a Diesel site but my dealer called me the other day about the new 6.4s they have coming in. I have to say the warranty 100k and price is hard to not at least think it over. So has anyone driven one? I don't want to go drive a new truck because I would end up with a new Cummins that I can't afford :rof.

So thoughts?
I read some reviews and one claimed mixed mileage at 15.7
One draw back is I also read premium fuel only
The up charge on the invoice he sent me was $1495.00

The total price out the door was $37,7XX. Where as the same truck with a Cummins as we all know is about 42,xxx.

Just thought we should have some discussion, I want a Cummins but I don't want to spend $40k + on a truck. I have waited all year for rebates and incentives, and it still seems I'm gonna pay over 40 after tax,tags,title. I'm not sure I want to do it. This may be a valid option, but it hate gas trucks LOL.

What do you guys think about the 6.4?

 

[chickenfarmer]

I haven't driven one but I've been told they are fast, if you pull a trailer much I still wouldn't want a gas engine

 

[04ZX10R]

I got the 100k warranty on my truck. I only had the 36k on the '08

 

[clemsonkrawler]

I drove a 2014 1500 Crew Laramie with the new motor and 8 speed auto. Theres no doubt, its fast. It had a few more options than the 2014 2500 Cummins Big Horn I bought(leather/sunroof) but was only about $4500 less out the door. It was not a big enough price difference to lose a cummins and the towing capacity.

Plus I HATED the transmission shifter. Its a ~2" KNOB ON THE DASH!!!! WTF is that???

 

[RyeThomas]

My understanding is the 1500 only has the 5.7. I don't think the 6.4 is available in the 1500 yet.

 

[mpierce]

Your last sentence says it all "I hate gas engines".

The misery of the gas engine over the next several years, will far outweigh the money savings.

And, when you go to trade it next time, you will get most of your money back.

 

[5001craig]

$5-$6 thousand difference between a gasser and a Cummins? That seems like a no-brainer to me.

But it might put you over the $40K mark.

 

[Quicktime_GT]

hell the 6.4 will could run better than a stock cummins and with the inability to easily tune a diesel now it may not be such a bad alternative.

 

[13brute]

Coming from a '12 Power Wagon, with every mod that could be done without diving into the engine, 5.7+6spd auto+4.56s= 10.5-12.5 mpg. Hooked a 8000# trailer to it and averaged 5-7 mpg. When it broke the tranny for the third time in a year the door opened for me to go to a CTD, and I will never have another truck with a gas motor. I would say VVT and MDS help, but 15 mpg unloaded in a 2500 4x4? I would think the small difference in price pays for itself every time you hook a trailer to the CTD. Ram did need a gas motor with more low end torque, hopefully the 6.4 will fit the bill.

 

[RyeThomas]

I've had an 06 since 06, I don't change trucks very often. I don't tow all that often but when I do its 12k or more. If the 6.4 would take regular fuel and get decent mileage it would be a serious option for guys like me.
5-6k extra is huge when you have 3 small children and don't make a living with your truck, but you still need a truck to make a few extra dollars a few times a year. As far as resale I don't really care, when you keep a truck 8-10 years resale becomes more a percentage of what you paid to begin with (you still paid more). I also don't drive a ton so overall vehicle mileage on my stuff is always low, heck my 06 has 67k on the clock. Makes the gasser with 100k warranty more viable because in 10 years chances are it won't even click 100k.

Again just kicking some thoughts around. I want another CTD, but I don't need one. IDK.

 

[Iron Man]

I am definitely going to give it a look. I currently have a 2013 1500 with 5.7, 8 speed, and air ride. Believe it or not, it does pretty well towing my 31' toy hauler. Driving around town, unloaded, it's quicker than my previous CTD, and gets 17-18 in town.
That being said, if it's not much different than what I have, another CTD it is.

 

[FF1063]

As great as the 6.4 could have been for me, I knew I would end up with buyers remorse as I have owned and have been a CTD follower for the last 16 yrs. If my new 14' 6.7 CTD ends up being problematic, I will go back to gassers.

 

[Milkman3371]

How in gods creation can anyone say "the 6.4 can run better than the cummins"? Yeah it may run good UNLOADED, Put the 10K trailer behind it and you will why you spent the extra money. It will crap the bed on the hills - no torque.

Take it from someone who TRIED hauling with a gasser.

It's plain dumb. I think all the gassers are "overrated" on what they can do. My 2009 1500 was a terd.

 

[RyeThomas]

But that's just it your 09 was not a 6.4, they made this as a HD gas option. Comparing a 1500 5.7 isn't a fair comparison.
5k can buy a lot of fuel, even more so when GAS is cheaper and winter blend diesel SUCKS.
Again just looking at it objectively.

 

[gsbrockman]

5k can buy a lot of fuel, even more so when GAS is cheaper and winter blend diesel SUCKS.
Again just looking at it objectively.

$5k will buy a lot of fuel......fuel that is blown out the tailpipe. The $5k invested for the Cummins option will be around at re-sale......or at least 90% of it will be (as previously mentioned). Around my area.....3/4 and one-ton gasser trucks just don't move.....and it doesn't matter if they're GM, FoMoCo, or RAM.

 

[6.7 towrig]

When you really get down to numbers the diesel doesnt really pull up a hill any faster than gas engine when you are dealing with weight under 9000lbs or so. The advantage to the diesel is how easy it does it, and how quietly it gets done. My 5.4 gas engine in my F-150 pulled a 27 ft travel trailer just as quick as my Powerstroke pulled it. It was just freakin loud doing it and felt like it was strained. I say the advantage comes to guys like me that are pulling over 10,000 lbs or more and enjoy peace and quiet during the drive.

I would consider the 6.4 for sure, not saying that I could make the switch from diesel though. Just depends on how often you pull

 

[Highway 4x4]

I think if you had a turbo on the 6.4 like the Cummins has it would be closer to a fair test. The tow ability of the 6.4 will hinge on the way it's tuned or programed from the factory along with the trans. My old 97 5.9 gasser did a better job towing 7000 than my 03 hemi did due to low end torque in the 5.9. When I go the 03 Cummins my eyes were opened to real torque and it has nothing compared to the new 6.7. While the new 6.4 may satisfy a few, the 6,7 will still be the one to get even with it's issues.
Side note, resale. Bought a Hemi and a 5.9 in 03. Son has hemi. Both trucks in perfect condition and are exactly the same, SLT, 4x4, SBQC, white, 130K miles. My son can't get 12K for his and mine still will go for close to 20K. Many have asked if his is a diesel. The Cummins is the king of resale, at least the pre DEF ones.

 

[oudive]

I am sure that Ram is targeting a particular segment in marketing terms. I know when I picked up my truck, the sales person was talking about Ram and how they we trying to expand their markets. I know, just sales person person conversation.

I think it is pretty cool and would love to test one, but that is as far as it would go with me. After switching to 5.9 diesel, even though it ended up being a lemon and bought back by Chrysler, I picked up a jeep because I could not find another diesel that I wanted. That was a short lived experience when the first Mega Cab 3500 roll out on the dealers lot.

 

[Dae]

I've had an 06 since 06, I don't change trucks very often. I don't tow all that often but when I do its 12k or more. If the 6.4 would take regular fuel and get decent mileage it would be a serious option for guys like me.
5-6k extra is huge when you have 3 small children and don't make a living with your truck, but you still need a truck to make a few extra dollars a few times a year. As far as resale I don't really care, when you keep a truck 8-10 years resale becomes more a percentage of what you paid to begin with (you still paid more). I also don't drive a ton so overall vehicle mileage on my stuff is always low, heck my 06 has 67k on the clock. Makes the gasser with 100k warranty more viable because in 10 years chances are it won't even click 100k.

Again just kicking some thoughts around. I want another CTD, but I don't need one. IDK.

Dude... You're saying it over and over again that you don't need a CTD and you keep telling everyone how well the 6.4 will fit your needs...

Sounds like you've already made up your mind and were looking for reassurance on the 6.4... Your problem with asking, is that you did it here .... on a Cummins forum...

Just get the 6.4 and let us know how it works out for you ... If you got what you thought it was or if you end up with buyers remorse ....

BTW, some times, it's not about what a truck will be used for or how it's used ... Some times, the only thing that matters is if it puts a smile on the owners face...

 

[Quicktime_GT]

I think if you had a turbo on the 6.4 like the Cummins has it would be closer to a fair test. .

Lol … A 6.4 at 20+ PSI will likely make 800+ rwhp. Doubtful that the bottom end would hold up at this level, however..

So- a 6.4 with a turbo would not be closer to fair, the 6.4 would then make an enormous amount of power..