Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum banner
  • Hey everyone! Enter your ride HERE to be a part of this month's Ride of the Month Challenge!

1 - 20 of 34 Posts

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
Well, I started out years ago with my "Anatomy" series - so just as well stick with it!

Ordered one of Stefan Kondolay's grid-delete stainless steel intakes, it arrived this morning, so wanted to do a bit of presentation on it, as it was done on my own '02 truck.

Here's what came in the package:



And since most guys quickly want to know how the welding looks, heres the tube-to-base bead:



Not too shabby!

Here's a few more, self explanatory pics:




The base, grid delete option, showing round-to-square transition:



Comparison to the OEM:



And, the manifold end comparison:



(more below)
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Here it is, all installed on the engine:



Quick and easy - about 45 minutes actual install time. More installed pics:




And an over-all underhood shot to show the general effect upon appearance:



OK, so a few comments and observations.

First, before you start, get a pair of gaskets, one for the grid-delete adapter block to manifold plate, and another for the grid-delete block-to-intake tube - the kit doesn't come with any - my local NAPA store didn't have any, or even show them in their books, so I bought some gasket material, and made my own.

Also, as supplied, there is a bracket furnished that attaches to one of the intake hold-down bolts, to support the oil dipstick - to me, it looks crappy to pull the dipstick to one side over the valve cover area, so I did a "field modification" to the provided support to allow the dipstick to simply be supported in it's original line, and under the new intake tube - you can check it out in the above pictures, and see what you think.

Looks like a good piece, and will provide driving impressions later...;):D:D
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
647 Posts
Very nice looking setup and good writeup and pics.....thanks
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,181 Posts
:w: DTT :beer

Bob
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #6 · (Edited)

·
Registered
Joined
·
565 Posts
So, question. What improvements does an aftermarket intake give?
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 · (Edited)
So, question. What improvements does an aftermarket intake give?
SO, is this latest gadget just another "pretty face", or does it provide muscle to match the good looks? Judge for yourself:



Pretty decent power and torque increase - and right in the middle of the power band, where it will see the most use - great for Rvers - and reportedly, also provides the added benefit of reduced EGT! Interesting to note that the observed power increase isn't far off what other power adders, such as the popular Smarty, provides, but at less than half the cost. Of course, individual truck power increases will depend on other related mods done to the truck.
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
30hp and 40lb/ft gain? Am I reading that right?
Yup - at least on that setup - and several others have been done displaying similar increase, so it's no fluke.

Best part is, it delivers it's increase at an RPM where the hardest work is usually done - not way up in the RPM range we rarely use.

I'm looking forward to testing mine on the RV towing trip coming up in several weeks - 1500 miles, and LOTS of steep mountain grades! :peelout:hyper:
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,493 Posts
That is very interesting. That's the first time I've ever seen one of those actually increase power.
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #12 ·
That is very interesting. That's the first time I've ever seen one of those actually increase power.
For sure, I've seen folks pay lots more, for less power increase - and this one LOOKS good too! :lol3:

No wires to connect, no intrusion into sheet metal or fuel lines - it just SITS there - and WORKS! :rof
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,493 Posts
Wow. You mean I don't actually have to lie to my trucks computer to make power. What a neat idea. :lol3:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,082 Posts
Wow. You mean I don't actually have to lie to my trucks computer to make power. What a neat idea. :lol3:
thats funny right there....:lol3:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
301 Posts
id suspect most of the power increase came from the grid delete. is there a dyno graph of a stock grid vs. a gutted/delete one ?
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Wow. You mean I don't actually have to lie to my trucks computer to make power. What a neat idea. :lol3:
YUP - and you don't have to lie to the dealer, either! ;) :lol3:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,082 Posts
how much was the intake and where did you find it?
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,174 Posts
Discussion Starter · #18 ·
id suspect most of the power increase came from the grid delete. is there a dyno graph of a stock grid vs. a gutted/delete one ?
The dyno graph displayed further above was supposedly with the OEM grid setup still in place - reportedly, substantial additional power is obtained with the grid-delete option DTT offers at additional cost. I've seen the claimed power added, but won't believe or post it until I actually see the dyno sheet posted - but the additional CLAIMED power is substantial.

Guys have to realize there are several different intake designs from the OEM for different year model trucks, and each will have it's own stock flow rate, and also react differently to an intake like DTT's - and the widely varying added power-on's will also change things.

There's no doubt a better intake - like DTT's - will improve power, but it will take some more installations and dyno runs to establish a reliable average and comparison base.
 

·
Tech Specialist
Joined
·
1,493 Posts
I've got a grid heater delete in the back seat (i really gotta stop drinking and looking at parts) and it looks like a grid heater with no grids and maybe some porting on it. That's it.
 
1 - 20 of 34 Posts
Top